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m_nettleship 18-09-2006 02:46 PM

What brake horse is ur Cosworth? Please contribute.
 
Not a competition lads, but think this will be a very helpfull topic.

list every engine mod, and brake horse and torque figures. From rolling road graph. from 220 bhp on yellows, to 500 or 600bhp. Please Contribute.

m_nettleship 18-09-2006 02:48 PM

Currently on yellows it is 279bhp with 261 torque. undergoin engine rebuild at present. have my greens and map sensor all ready.

Running 17psi off boost.
low comp pistons.
pts stage 2 turbo, dont really no what it is?
Filter an excaust.
Chip.

RS_Gav 18-09-2006 03:36 PM

Good topic....

Had mine dynoed bout 3 weeks after I bought it with the mods that the prev owner had done. Sort of a "starting point" for me.
3dr running stage 3... pod filter, 3inch hi-flow exhaust, turbosmart boost adjust valve, greens, 3 bar map sensor, .31 actuator, stage 3 chip, wrc head gasket, grp a coil and leads etc etc..
Was quite dissapointed with the results when I saw the numbers (at the wheels btw) but after seeing the graph!!! Easy to see its the boost that is the problem!! It dives off faster than it climbs! Have since purchased a Apexi AVC-R Electronic boost controller. Will have it back on the dyno once it sorted... stay tuned

https://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c...g_Gav/Dyno.jpg

Daz-rst 18-09-2006 03:38 PM

280bhp not sure on torque figure. running stage 1 karl norris gunship chip. standard 4x4 dark blue injectors. roose sport silicone hoses, standard T3 running 22psi at peak drops to 15psi. not to sure on figures as only had the car a month. :top:

gwynny 18-09-2006 04:04 PM

307bhp 305ftlb,
T3,
greens,
3 bar,
MSD stg3 chip,
-31 Actuator,
setup at Interpro 19 psi,
filter, pipe and samco's.

lammylama 18-09-2006 05:44 PM

344bhp and 331 lb of torque.....

low comp bottom end
T34/.48 housing/ -31
greens
3 bar map
500 cooler
BD10 inlet and standard exhaust cam
22psi
mongoose
k&n induction kit
set up by Paul Hills at engine advantages

Tangodeltasierra3 18-09-2006 06:04 PM

412 BHP - 350lb/ft torque :top:
Now for sale on ebay too.

https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a...ssyPics068.jpg

nice_head 18-09-2006 06:34 PM

Me old saff woz:

329bhp - 309lb/ft torque

200 Block
4X4 Pistons
-31 acuator
Green injectors
3Bar map sensor
T34
2WD Intercooler

m_nettleship 18-09-2006 06:47 PM

what boost nice head, like to no what boost, cos understand it better.

Tangoldsierra, I am from south yorkshire too, sheffield, what was the details on that build boost etc, thats what aiming 4.

Lamalammalammylama, gud figure for boost, what drivability like?

m_nettleship 18-09-2006 06:50 PM

lamylama, what else u done to engine, breather?swirl pot? how mutch was turbo and what damper u use?

Tangodeltasierra3 18-09-2006 08:13 PM

nettleship just buy mine mate off ebay lol....ready made for you, incidentally i'm running T35, grey injectors @32psi peak - holding 28psi.

Richie. 18-09-2006 09:12 PM

Standard internals, Swedish style plenum, T38, 850cc injectors and live mapped by MSD. Peaks at 31 psi and holds 25psi.

https://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/DSC00783.jpg

m_nettleship 18-09-2006 09:53 PM

whats a t38 mate. mine is a stage 2 with 360 mashings, from pts supposed to handle 26psi. so what is mine???

Tangoldsierra, didnt say were abouts? and how mutch, wnt to park ex??

Tangodeltasierra3 18-09-2006 10:56 PM

Haha Rich bet yer :top: Nettleship i dont wanna p/x mate, and if u look in for sale section u mite just see it, oh and its big spondoolas. :DD:

m_nettleship 18-09-2006 10:58 PM

not even a st220

Richie. 19-09-2006 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Tangodeltasierra3
Haha Rich bet yer :top: :DD:

:( :( :( :blabla: :blabla: :cry: :cry:

Richie. 19-09-2006 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by m_nettleship
whats a t38 mate. mine is a stage 2 with 360 mashings, from pts supposed to handle 26psi. so what is mine???

Made by Universal Turbos, its similar to a T34 with a .63 exhaust housing but the compressor whell is replaced with a larger one and the compressor housing machined to suit :top: :top:

lammylama 19-09-2006 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by m_nettleship
lamylama, what else u done to engine, breather?swirl pot? how mutch was turbo and what damper u use?

drivability is fine for everyday driving,tis a little more laggy at the mo as ive just put a bd10 inlet cam in but is going to be set up again very soon.

I have a grp A breather system with oil seperator tank,swirl pot,turbo was already on the car when i brought it but has 360 deg bearing,cut back blades etc and i run it with a bailey turbo damper.Car has been very reliable too....touch wood!!!!!

Moonstone Kev 19-09-2006 05:08 PM

Our 3dr is 390 bhp with 353lbs of torque running 24lbs of boost

7.6.1 C/R
200 Motorsport Block
Light Blue Injectors
T34/.48
GGR Group A Dump Valve & Group A Air Filter
Mongoose Exhaust
Swirl Pot, Oil Seperator & Breather by MLDevelopments
Silicon hoses by Roose
Pro-Alloy RS 500 Intercooler
Built by Harvey Gibbs
R/R at Powerstation in Tewkesbury

ellicoss 19-09-2006 06:22 PM

MY SPEC AS BUILT BY STEVE SCOTT LAST WEEK
200 LONG STUDDED BLOCK
BD10 BD14
LOW COMP
TRIPLE LAYER HEAD GASKET
SIEMEN INJECTORS 660CC
T38 TURBO
500 COOLER
REBUILT HEAD
HI PRESURE PUMP
STEVE HAS SAID LAST 1 HE BUILT TO THIS SPEC DONE AROUND 450BHP AND 420 POUNDS OF TORUQE SO IF ITS ANYWHERE NEAR THAT I WILL BE HAPPY :top:

NUNOOKS 19-09-2006 06:28 PM

350HP
365FT
T35 STAGE 2
803
500 COOLER
SWIRL POT
JUST BUILT BOTTOM END 200 BLOCK WITH FULL BALANCE AND ARP BOLTS
WITH THE OLD HEAD ON THE CAR, NEW HEAD BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW BY HT RACING.
THE CAR IN ITS NEW SPECK SHOULD BE AROUND THE 400HP MARK. http://www.avatarimage.net/imagehost...bad5b225b0.jpg

nice_head 19-09-2006 06:29 PM

(m_nettleship") what boost nice head, like to no what boost, cos understand it better.

Think i woz running bout 22psi/23psi, not sure really :(

cos47 19-09-2006 06:59 PM

94,ooo mile 4x4 engine only been apart for a grpA headgasket no other mods done to the motor
Greens
3 bar
500 cooler
T-34 .48

Set up by Mark @ M.A.D Made 349bhp and 355lb/ft @1.6 bar at Interpro :top: :top:

DAN P 19-09-2006 07:16 PM

0 bhp
0 ft/lb
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/1...2/IM000684.jpg
:cry: :cry:

m_nettleship 19-09-2006 08:51 PM

bye the sounds of it, holding 25psi of boost should net u around 350hp give a take. mods etc.

Twellsie 21-09-2006 11:46 AM

T3, Greys, 3 Bar, RamAir filter, Magnex exhaust, NMS map

336 ft/lb & 308.4 bhp

IMG]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/DaBoy12s/powergraph.jpg[/IMG]

Twellsie 21-09-2006 11:48 AM

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Twellsie 21-09-2006 11:50 AM

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...powergraph.jpg

gilly 21-09-2006 03:42 PM

Ive got a moonstone blue saff 4x4. Had it set up and dynoed at Well Lane. Its running 327bhp with 296ftlb of torque. It was in last months Fast Ford rolling road day with the Manchester RSOC Group. Onlydynoed at 317 as i was the first on the rollers :top: :top:

m_nettleship 21-09-2006 08:59 PM

what boost was that mate

wildheart 22-09-2006 12:43 AM

Last time i had my 3dr on rollers it made 312bhp and 321 ft/lbs
Standard T3
Greens
K&N cone filter
Mongoose exhaust
4x4 cooler
Ahmed bajoo chip
21 psi peak holding 19psi.

Going back on saturday to see what difference its made with Greys,Pro alloy 500 cooler,T34.55 and NMS live map :top:

Cawood 22-09-2006 11:33 AM

mines

262bhp 14psi
stage1 chip
zorst
K&N

thats it

got a boosting prob at the mo, going to NMS for the gunshop conversion as soon as i get some more cash together :top:

cosy trav 22-09-2006 10:23 PM

my 4x4 is
329 hp
300 ft
21 psi peak
18 psi hold
500 cooler
dark greens
stg 3 collins chip
grp a coil , fuel pump , filter
T34 stg 2 hybrid .
https://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j...MAGE_00015.jpg
https://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j...MAGE_00016.jpg

radiant red 22-09-2006 10:57 PM

when i pick it up ill be seeing 440 bhp thanks to butch :top:

CosKev3 23-09-2006 10:10 AM

406 bhp and 428 lb ft torque :top:

T34,.63,
Greys live mapped by MSD on L8 ECU,
BD10's,
Ported/polished head by Bluesprint,
Lightened balanced bottom end,
Long studded 200 block,
WRC gasket,
GGR Boost hoses,
A&H 500 size cooler.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...3/100_0707.jpg

:top:

Danny @ Enhanced Performance 24-09-2006 10:47 AM

some nice engines on here .well ive got a rear wheel drive escos running around 420bhp on rs500 plenum t4 turbo 200 block 8 greens bd14 inlet at 25 psi good fun and handles better than any saph or 3door iv had infact i love it and im turning it into a bit of a beast over the winter so keep your eyes open for next year.iv got my moonstone 500 in the garage wich has got genuine 500 block long studded low comp lightened and balacend bottom end ported head bd14s 8 greens t4 turbo pectel loom and ecu runs 511 hp and 452 lb ft.then iv got my saph race car that runs 592 bhp it has long studded 200 block spray jets low comp pistons heat treated shot peened rods f1 conrod bolts lightwieght crank line port big port head isky valve springs bd16 inlet bd14 eexhaust 8 greys on 500 plenum and turbonetics t66 turbo running 2.2 bar

deleted 24-09-2006 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by lammylama
344bhp and 331 lb of torque.....

low comp bottom end
T34/.48 housing/ -31
greens
3 bar map
500 cooler
BD10 inlet and standard exhaust cam
22psi
mongoose
k&n induction kit
set up by Paul Hills at engine advantages

thats gone down a bit last time i had it done was 353 bhp and 340 lb/ft


current car i dunno bout 125 bhp 90lb/ft :cry: :cry: :cry: nah im guessin 260 ish not gonna bother dyno ing this enf=gine will wait till my new ones built id then expect in the region of 360/400 bhp plenty for a rwd

KH 24-09-2006 06:42 PM

i have a 3 door, with 200 engine, gt 35 bb turbo, spcial spec cams, ported, S/S ex. manifoil with sep wg, tial 46mm, big pro spec intercooler, H-con rods, polished and nitril hardened crank-shaft . acralite wrc pistons, arp bolts, autronic ecu++++

600 bhp + -

kev 3dr 24-09-2006 07:04 PM

Tottalley not sure as i dont know what chip is in it before i taken it off the road but i do know it has a 3bar map sensor, greens, standard t3 not sure what actuator and boost as only running standard gauge to !!! maybe as a guestimate 280 ish tottalley not sure !!!!

Hope to be running about 330-350 next year as work and pennys permit !!

m_nettleship 26-09-2006 10:22 AM

Went to see engine builder last night, and all the bottom ends in, but after towing it a mile down road, to put head on,on bore number one, a pin head hole has apeared in the liner. midway up, something to do with the casting of the liner,,,, gutted prob be another month now, oh well.


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