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Hansenturbo 13-08-2007 02:01 PM

What alloy rad for erst
 
I am looking to buy a alloy rad for my rst as the old rad is dead but who should i get it from GRS ,Pro alloy or other so if anyone got some experiment from there alloys rad good or bad ill be happy to hear :top: :top:

bonus_boy 13-08-2007 02:21 PM

dont know much about them both, but been told the grs is good for the money.

theres a pro alloy rad and intercooler with twin fans on around 300 on ebay...couple months old!

check fleabay!

Hansenturbo 13-08-2007 02:21 PM

this one looks like a good deal for only 200pund but is it :? https://secure.encryptedspace.com/au...t_detail&p=555

https://secure.encryptedspace.com/au...roduct_555.jpg

bonus_boy 13-08-2007 02:25 PM

looks decent for that price brand new.

billys selling a grs one in rs turbo sale section for 220

Hansenturbo 13-08-2007 02:26 PM

bonus_boy okay thanks m8 ill look into that

Hansenturbo 13-08-2007 02:31 PM

the proalloy one looks and the core 43mm where the other one is 40mm :drool: :drool: but its £308

http://www.proalloy.co.uk/userdata/PRODPIC-199.jpg

gus 13-08-2007 03:05 PM

will be getting pro alloy to do mine (cooler aswell)


will have to have a chat soon about what i want ;)

antony215 13-08-2007 03:30 PM

Pace or GRS :top: A few people on here have had them airtec ones go bang :eek:

gus 13-08-2007 03:53 PM

just replacing my pace rad


nothing wrong with it at all


just dirty :cry: :cry: :cry:

trev1976 13-08-2007 09:19 PM

i was thinking of getting a pro alloy one myself as all there stuff fits 1st time and works well but im not sure if i need to spend £300 on a rad as even on full boost my temps dont seem to go above half way on the gauge , but they do look nice and it would match my pro alloy front mount intercooler :wall:

djmillsy 13-08-2007 10:40 PM

stick to standard copper core you cant get better

Alex_86 13-08-2007 10:49 PM

test the the radtec one for me

http://www.radtec.co.uk/mygallery/di...?id=22&start=9

edit: test the airtec foe me to!

İhatter Box 13-08-2007 10:59 PM

you get what you pay for i got an pro alloy on 2 of my s2 and works a treat. the finish on it is great :top: but if you take one look at the airtec you know it cheaper and piss poor quality :cry:

marky_g 14-08-2007 08:39 AM

the air tec (auto specialists) ones are good mate

and the quality's pretty good, it'll be using one

gus 14-08-2007 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by marky_g
the air tec (auto specialists) ones are good mate

and the quality's pretty good, it'll be using one

not seen one first hand but thats opposite to what i have heard

tomhs123 14-08-2007 02:28 PM

ive never had a problem with my pace rad mate! :top:

İhatter Box 14-08-2007 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by marky_g
the air tec (auto specialists) ones are good mate

and the quality's pretty good, it'll be using one

you are jokeing me right :( have you see how poor they are made :eek:

get an pro alloy and an air tec in front of you and you know where i am coming from ;)

matt p 14-08-2007 07:50 PM

I had a pro alloy one in the red S2 in my sig,

Quite easily one of the best mods i made that, ok it cost £375 fitted at
jamsport but it never warmed up passed the O on the temp gauge in my
dash.

Highly recommended!!!

HTH

Matt

Fiecos Dan 14-08-2007 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by İhatter Box

Originally Posted by marky_g
the air tec (auto specialists) ones are good mate

and the quality's pretty good, it'll be using one

you are jokeing me right :( have you see how poor they are made :eek:

get an pro alloy and an air tec in front of you and you know where i am coming from ;)

ok the finish is better,

but dont mean the cooling is.


Thier 500 inter core's aint that Gr8, so thier RST rad could also not be the best.

But i'm not saying the ProAlloy isn't the best, just We dont know, as no one has tested them on the same car, on the csame day, doing a proper test.

escort turbo estate 19-08-2007 05:49 PM

i have got a radtec one on my s2 and its great good welds, quality finish won it on ebay for 170quid

Rick 19-08-2007 10:39 PM

you won't beat a std copper one in good condition.

Fiecos Dan 20-08-2007 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Rick
you won't beat a std copper one in good condition.

i dont believe that, due to the more modern core design's that gets used in 'SOME' alloy brand item's.


My cossie runs hotter with a good condition std item, than my AH fab's Alloy item

Christian and Beccy 20-08-2007 09:39 AM

Standard rad for me!! :top:

Why bother with anything else? If the car can't keep cool on a standard rad, then in my opinion other things need to be looked at.

I have a non-turbo bonnet at the moment, with no vents and it still doesn't run hot. :top:

marky_g 20-08-2007 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by İhatter Box

Originally Posted by marky_g
the air tec (auto specialists) ones are good mate

and the quality's pretty good, it'll be using one

you are jokeing me right :( have you see how poor they are made :eek:

get an pro alloy and an air tec in front of you and you know where i am coming from ;)

ok if u dont wanna use an air tech one and pay doubel the price for a pro alloy and get the same resualts be my guest :cry:

dave_y 20-08-2007 12:22 PM

if copper is so special, why does nobody have a copper intercooler?

Christian and Beccy 20-08-2007 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by dave_y
if copper is so special, why does nobody have a copper intercooler?

You can't compare an Air-to-Air cooler with an Air-to-Water cooler.

Also, Alloy cores are more readily available to make Intercoolers from, who knows, perhaps a Copper Intercooler would be great.

Whatever the case, I still stand by my opinion that my RST cooling is excellent and it really does only have a standard rad. :top:

dave_y 20-08-2007 12:36 PM

I have to say, my cooling system could be better....

I have

standard (17 year old) radiator
2 x Kenlowe fans
13 row oil cooler
82oC thermostat
standard header tank and cap

and sitting in traffic the fans only just keep the car cool- sometimes goes up to the N on the gauge.

am thinking about getting a turbo cooler and an alloy rad cause the end tanks on my standard rad are cracking and i also have some water wetter which i have not put in the system yet.

also my car runs warmer at night as the fans aren't as powerful when the headlights are on :cry:

Rick 22-08-2007 06:38 PM

Fiecos Dan

Dan, the core's have changed over the years. I've uses 70 quid copper rads, non OE and they have been superb. I haven't been on track, but with the very thick cossie cooler covering the rad, lots of very fast road work as well as traffic, the rad never struggles.

I don't know which brands are good and which aren't for alloy. Maybe because they are physically thicker they cool better? There are firms that make custom copper rads - maybe this would be the ultimate?

Christian and Beccy 22-08-2007 07:34 PM

I drove mine today, remember it has no bonnet vents. I sat in traffic on and off for about 20-30 mins and to be honest, I was worried that the temp gauge had stopped working, it was only just out of the bottom area. OK, so it isn't mega hot at the moment, but I really can't complain about the cooling. :cool: :top:

Hansenturbo 22-08-2007 08:42 PM

Didn`t get a alloy rad this time :oops: I got the old copper rad rebuild and the problem is sorted :top: :top: :top:

Fiecos Dan 24-08-2007 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Rick
Fiecos Dan

Dan, the core's have changed over the years. I've uses 70 quid copper rads, non OE and they have been superb. I haven't been on track, but with the very thick cossie cooler covering the rad, lots of very fast road work as well as traffic, the rad never struggles.

I don't know which brands are good and which aren't for alloy. Maybe because they are physically thicker they cool better? There are firms that make custom copper rads - maybe this would be the ultimate?


My AH fab rad has slightly less core area to my std ford item.

but in 28oC ambients my cossie see's 93oC on a hard track session with the AH fab's rad,
But with std item on a 10oC ambients, it see's 95oC on the track.

only thing changed is the rad.


I don't know either what Alloy Rad's are good or bad, but the only way of knowing is test them on 1 track car.

bezo 27-08-2007 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by gus

Originally Posted by marky_g
the air tec (auto specialists) ones are good mate

and the quality's pretty good, it'll be using one

not seen one first hand but thats opposite to what i have heard


got an airtec rad on my van and its mint! never had a prob with it fitment was good and does its job the way an ally rad should.

marky_g 27-08-2007 07:54 PM

bloody rite

Rick 28-08-2007 06:02 PM

Dan, how new was your std rad?

Fiecos Dan 29-08-2007 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Rick
Dan, how new was your std rad?


not sure, but seems in good condition.


still i tried Copper and alloy 'NEW' std items on my XR2t, and the alloy items are alot more effeient, as on the copper ones i see over 100oC on the road whilst det checking @ 6000 is 5th, Alooy wont go past 95oC.

Rick 30-08-2007 06:25 PM

Have you put an alloy one on the XR recently?

Fiecos Dan 31-08-2007 03:15 AM

i've got a new Alloy one to fit, but not on there yet.

last time i had a alloy one on there was nearly a year ago.


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