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YBT200 18-07-2008 10:05 AM

shocks and springs
 
hi there, what shocks and springs do you prefer on an escort cosworth for both handling and look , because i am very confused what to do?

ECOS95 18-07-2008 01:29 PM

Ahmed springs, Koni dampers.

Kelv 18-07-2008 01:50 PM

as the man said above :grin:

the best bet for all round use - unless your happy to start spending silly money on decent coilover setups.

ECOS95 18-07-2008 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Kelv (Post 3438068)
as the man said above :grin:

the best bet for all round use - unless your happy to start spending silly money on decent coilover setups.

Can't take all the credit, took advice from people on here & Mike R.:king:
Very pleased with the ride & stance of it now.

YBT200 18-07-2008 07:37 PM

i was told to use gaz adjustable shocks with gaz springs ,what do you think of them?are they good?

ECOS95 18-07-2008 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by YBT200 (Post 3438919)
i was told to use gaz adjustable shocks with gaz springs ,what do you think of them?are they good?

There's a thread in GD currently about Coil overs etc. Worth a read.

Kelv 18-07-2008 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by YBT200 (Post 3438919)
i was told to use gaz adjustable shocks with gaz springs ,what do you think of them?are they good?


Told by who?

i wouldnt spend £500 on Gaz coilovers id rather spend £500 on Koni's and Ahmed springs.

YBT200 21-07-2008 08:11 PM

anyone knows how much the ahmed bayoo springs will lower the car, because i am looking to lower it about 30mm range ?

KSA-Cossie 21-07-2008 08:24 PM

Around -20 mm m8.

YBT200 22-07-2008 07:40 AM

what about the gaz adjustable shocks with their springs (not the coilovers ones ) , have someone used them , what do you think about them? are they good quality? i've heard that these lower the car by 30mm.

ECOS95 22-07-2008 08:43 AM

Here's a picture of mine with Koni's & ahmed springs that I bought from Mike R.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8319/cossielx4.jpg

Mike Rainbird 30-07-2008 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by ECOS95 (Post 3446361)
Here's a picture of mine with Koni's & ahmed springs that I bought from Mike R.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8319/cossielx4.jpg

Looks perfect :top:!

ECOS95 30-07-2008 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird (Post 3462973)
Looks perfect :top:!

:DD: & no problems with speed bumps either (Splitter still on & intact):king: Just need to buy a nice carbon set.

YBT200 30-07-2008 08:13 PM

do you know how much it will be lowered with them?

YBT200 30-07-2008 08:27 PM

and what about the handling ?

ECOS95 30-07-2008 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by YBT200 (Post 3464138)
do you know how much it will be lowered with them?

25mm roughly, I've got a picture before the kit was put on somewhere.

ECOS95 30-07-2008 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by YBT200 (Post 3464180)
and what about the handling ?

Good for road use in the UK, the roads round here are rubbish.I've got the fast road springs & the Koni's on full soft front & rear & its still a big improvement over standard. Oh & the front end is fully Poly bushed.

Never been in a car with Coilovers so can't compare.

Mike Rainbird 31-07-2008 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by YBT200 (Post 3464180)
and what about the handling ?

Very good!

cossytonyt 28-11-2008 06:04 PM

how much are the springs

Mike Rainbird 28-11-2008 06:13 PM

£170 delivered :).

booner999 30-11-2008 09:33 PM

just bought the ahmed and konis. Mike and co all rated them very highly :)

Kelv 30-11-2008 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by booner999 (Post 3773912)
just bought the ahmed and konis. Mike and co all rated them very highly :)


:thumbup:

Clikettman 01-12-2008 02:36 PM

And what do you think about Bilstein shocks ?
They are not so expensive and I think they have a far better quality and damping results than Konis...

On my Escort I have Kayabas Ultra SR shocks, even these ones are better than Koni I think.

Mr.Ford 01-12-2008 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Clikettman (Post 3774965)
And what do you think about Bilstein shocks ?
They are not so expensive and I think they have a far better quality and damping results than Konis...

On my Escort I have Kayabas Ultra SR shocks, even these ones are better than Koni I think.


I have a Wolf suspension kit (Bilstein shocks and Eibach springs). The ride is superb! :top:

Better than the Koni / Apex setup I used to have on my previous one :clap:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04-2008014.jpg

Mike Rainbird 02-12-2008 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Clikettman (Post 3774965)
And what do you think about Bilstein shocks ?
They are not so expensive and I think they have a far better quality and damping results than Konis...

On my Escort I have Kayabas Ultra SR shocks, even these ones are better than Koni I think.

I don't rate Bilsteins, as they are not adjustable.

The problem is matching the Konis with springs that do not suit it's damping rates. When you do do this, the transformation is unbelievable compared to cheap springs....

SO COSSIE 03-12-2008 11:37 AM

Were is the best place to get the ahmed springs from.

Also how much am i looking at for an escort cosworth ;-)

SO COSSIE 03-12-2008 11:59 AM

Sorry just seen your add £170 :oops:
also is it true you need to cut the spring platform on the koni shocks to get them to miss the tyre on a escort cosworth :roll:

Mike Rainbird 03-12-2008 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by SO COSSIE (Post 3779063)
Sorry just seen your add £170 :oops:
also is it true you need to cut the spring platform on the koni shocks to get them to miss the tyre on a escort cosworth :roll:

Depends what wheel (offset) you have :). Fitting Compomotives in 8x18, ET15 will negate this. However, if you have wheels with the original ET25 offset, then you will need to tweek the spring platform with a hammer like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/07...eR/Konis04.jpg

SO COSSIE 03-12-2008 02:21 PM

My old wheels were 8 18 e/t 25 but now i have 8 18 e/t 15.They have allways missed the wheel but the spring platform is above the tyre and the car seems to seat high its on koni shoks with graham/g springs and koni rear springs. does this seem odd as its doing my head in why it sits so high :wall:

Do you think i should change the springs to ahmed spring or change the lot some think must be wrong :angry:

Dave Henshall 03-12-2008 07:34 PM

you've also got to watch if lowering it too much (more than 20mm) that your egine mounts are in tip top shape - as the more yuo lower the more you increase the angle of the driveshafts from the front dif to the hubs and they can easilly pop out when you accellerate if the engine mounts are getting a bot long in the tooth, swap them for a new set of ford ones for comfort - at a set of vibratech ones for fit and forget but they do introduce a bit of vibration into the cabin.

Mike Rainbird 04-12-2008 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by SO COSSIE (Post 3779337)
My old wheels were 8 18 e/t 25 but now i have 8 18 e/t 15.They have allways missed the wheel but the spring platform is above the tyre and the car seems to seat high its on koni shoks with graham/g springs and koni rear springs. does this seem odd as its doing my head in why it sits so high :wall:

Do you think i should change the springs to ahmed spring or change the lot some think must be wrong :angry:

Lets see some pictures of your idea of "high". "Slamming an Escort into the weeds" will copletely screw the ride and handling. The GGR springs usually sit the car nicely IMO and are not too low to cause any handling / reliability woes.

SO COSSIE 04-12-2008 06:37 PM

Sorry about the picks

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/DSC02031.jpg

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/DSC02032.jpg

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...E/DSC01115.jpg

booner999 04-12-2008 07:33 PM

thats fine above, anymore and it wont look right if you ask me

SO COSSIE 04-12-2008 08:05 PM

Not looking to have it on the floor but would be nice to have the wheels closer to the arches.:grin:

Mike Rainbird 05-12-2008 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by SO COSSIE (Post 3782267)
Not looking to have it on the floor but would be nice to have the wheels closer to the arches.:grin:

If you lower it any more, it will fuck up the handling and cause front drive shaft failure if the car has any power :p.

Mine is on coilovers and is not much different to yours! :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/07...epicture01.jpg

SO COSSIE 05-12-2008 08:02 AM

easy way out of it then is to get a fat bird and seat it in the back with her head down :lol:
Thanks. i may think about new springs just for the back end as the fat bird will eat more than the car on supper unleadded.

Mike Rainbird 05-12-2008 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by SO COSSIE (Post 3782935)
easy way out of it then is to get a fat bird and seat it in the back with her head down :lol:
Thanks. i may think about new springs just for the back end as the fat bird will eat more than the car on supper unleadded.

I personally would not mix and match spring types...

SO COSSIE 05-12-2008 12:57 PM

You best have a sale on after chrstmas then :cut: 50% off ahmed springs :king: top man


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