Looks like nice piece of kit and uses all standard sensors.
Is it any good?

 

is it still available ?

i knew about this when group N was running for the sapphire/escort didnt think it was still available

 

It is still on their site so i guess they still supply them.

 

i never heard nothing about it,, well appart from whats on there site

 

theres a lad local who uses one on his 3door track car recons it works really well

cheers jay

 

What would be the advantage? Does it have any extra features over an L8 or even P8?

 

just what i was thinking

 

the ecu add on someone whats too get there hands on, is the one some lancia owners are playing about! it turns the ecu into a system you can live map without emulation!

 

yes , iknow about that, but this unit was designed when L8/P8 was thought to be impossible to live map/very difficult to remap hence the gems board that fitted in place of the original weber board in the weber case - hence all looking very 'std'

but now - is it worth having - i dont think so tbh against P8

 

ya i guess your right,,,, just take it too stu and say "sort it"

 

there will still be a small market i suppose if there still made (dont think they are tho tbh) as you thinkof how many remapping specialist CAN actually live map P8

 

i can think of 2,,,, stu and kenny

 

lol

funny that - as thats all i can think of

bonus to me then as there both personal friends

 

TBH, it's only worth while if it has more features over the P8.

 

i looked at this a couple of years ago and emailed GEMS and they quoted a cost of about Ł1200 for the transplant

 

For those that don't bother to look this is the most common of the features for GEMS implant boards, not sure if all applies for the Cosworth ones though.

Implant Features

Most of GEMS' implants have very similar features as listed below. However, the control that the ECU can take is governed by the inputs and outputs of the original connector and loom. GEMS' implants make every use of available inputs and outputs to provide total control for motorsport.

Timing signals picked up from OE sensor
Sequential injection
Oxygen feedback via oxygen sensor
Knock control
TPS or MAP based (can also use a combination of TPS whilst cranking and MAP when out of cranking)
Barometric compensation for naturally aspirated engines
Battery voltage compensation for coil charging
Tacho output
Fuel pump relay
Turbo wastegate control
Anti-lag system with fuel and ignition cutting with ignition retard
Rev limiting by fuel and/or ignition cuts
Ignition retard for coolant and air temperature
Start advance timing for cranking
Fuelling compensation for air temperature and pressure, battery voltage, coolant temperature
Deceleration fuel cut off
Throttle triggered acceleration enrichment
Throttle triggered deceleration enleanment
MAP triggered acceleration enrichment
Start fuel enrichment dependent upon coolant temperature
Fuel trims for individual cylinders
Adjustable fuel timing for engine speed and load
Throttle-based fuel trim for MAP-derived load system
Idle speed control
Launch control
Radiator fan control
Canister purge control for meeting evaporative emission regulations
Water spray / injection control


Looks neat..

 

so from all that the only advantage ( that i dont know of) is that it has launch control strategies , all the rest P8 can handle nicely ,

if you think about it tho Ł1200 its not that bad really, if you check out the cost of a board for als, WI , the cost of a used P8, then your already up there so

 

I like this bit:

Sequential injection and this bit Fuel trims for individual cylinders ,
you can't do this on a P8 can you?

 

im sure you cants,,,, but for the money they are asking you could find a second hand pectel T6,,, which do all the above and alot more

 

Where is the best place for secondhand ecu's then?
How much is a loom for them?

 

im sure ryan would make you a loom (not sure of his prices 400-500 quid?,, i did forget you would need a loom aswell)

try tim finch as a starter for a ecu,,,, motoring news is a uk paper worth checking out aswell

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/58124.htm

1300 quid,, and i only done a quick search on yahoo