Will -6 hose fit into the original fuel line clips under the car or will i need to fit new ones? If whats teh best way of doing this (water tight seal etc)

Cheers,
Dan

 

-6 will not fit the original clips.easy way is use zip ties around the old clip.best way is to use p clips

 

then think of mot time

 

Cheers!

Ginge - no engine didn't stop it passing the last two times

I assume by using zip ties it would fail?

 

dan it would fail with no metal lines if done proper mate, not having a dig just food for thought, all my cars pass that way too when i cant be arsed to fix em, dont mean that i would use something that is blaitantly a fail to get a friendly mot person in trouble or cause a issue i the interest in "bling"

use rubber pipes under the car for all i car, just dont cause a huge fireball when i look in my rear view mirror ( as we all know you drive too slow to cause danger to any person in a fast car )

 

you do waffle shit Ginge!

My complete fuel system is aeroquiped... had its MOT the other week. Blokes comment was around the lines of "Its passed.. infact.. has it been used since it was built! "

 

dave look into it then

your gonna tell me the all pass quip lines

 

actually didnt your pass with faulty ABS too or is that now sorted

let me go and check to make sure, ill even quote the rules and whys too if ya like

 

Never knew that! It would take a hell of a crash to damage braided fuel lines though and I dont think the metal equvilant would be any better off!

I've certainly never heard of anyone failing an mot due to braided fuel lines

the word you are looking for is sensibly mate

 

Ginge.. you are the kind of person I despise!

swearing that you're right when you're clearly wrong.. I dont mean that the rules are wrong.. they probably stipulate that metal lines are required.. BUT


you CAN get an mot.. because I DID get an MOT!

100% pass! .. well.. 97% the headlights aim needed adjustment



JESUS christ!

 

In many way, aeroquip fuel lines are superior to metal pipe in so much as they wont be crushed/flattened, and don't crack/split in the event of an accident.

Regardless of an MOT "Guideline", it will pass.

 

dave the point was the WONT ALWAYS PASS IT !!!!

imagine he fitted the lines and then he got told sorry sva rules state all cars must have metal lines, its a fail

what happens then

hence why i mentioned it, hes got it covered, fair play, hell so have i

but dont mean its LEGAL!!!!!

hyrdrolic hand brake is the next question i wonder about too, that can pass but is that legal

remeber there trying to bring in SVA for all modded cars where that may be a issue but thats not a problem at the moment

im mere pointing out the option to think of thats all


why does giving people honest info that can affect saftey get a hard time, spout crap about oil damaging engines and they get


hard work aint the word

 

The best way is to use the proper clamps. I drilled and tapped the floor and secured them that way. All mot friendly!

 

thinkthe areoquip is to do with the sagging of em over the solid lines not the actual amount of presure it can hold

unclil metal line, nothing moves much, clip the quip and it MAY droop

 

Why use aeroquip on the straight bits? It should only be used on the flexible sections, as copper pipe doesnt expand at all, and you get a better pedal feel.

 

how does fuel line choice effect pedal feel Rick you plebston!

 

i'll be quiet now

 

bufty

 

Ian - your car is tooooooooo clean! Stupid question but how did you attached the alloy spacers to the body? Just use a longer grub screw and tap the none hole side?

 

Not wanting to upset the apple cart...but stainless steel overbraid PTFE lined brake lines are unacceptable on a road car officially...never heard it about braided fuel lines and ive SVA'd a few cars with braided fuel lines but they have run internally rather than externally but the brake lines in PTFE stainless overbraid are defo (illegal). With regard to the argument over use of briaded lines....Subuaru WRC cars are now mainly plumbed in solid lines...brakes & fuel....but it is a weight reduction and perfomance factor...nothing to do with SVA or MOT...

IMO Braided hoses still look the best.....

 

You got it mate, drill through the alloy block, longer bolt, and tap the floor

 

so are you all saying you can use this sort of stuff

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

as this is what ive just bought

 

I wasn't planning on doing the return pipe as well, but its tempting now Thanks Ian

 

Ian3dr
where did ya get them clamps there the bolox!

 

I binned all my fuel lines, and its braided from end to end!

 

I got them from the same place I bought the hose, Goodridge

Demon Tweks and other such places sell them.....

 

Looks very good Ian.

I've been told to try and stay away from jubilee connections on non standard hoses but I take it you haven't had any problems?

Also, thinkauto say to to use the aeroquip banjo connection on fuel or high pressure applications? god knows why... any ideas?

 

.....arent braided fuel lines meant for INSIDE routing????Very tough flexible so perfect but putting it external under the car is not as good as metal std lines???

 

I have to agree with Ginge on this one Im afraid ... As I mentioned to Dave when he did hs I too was of the understanding flexible fuel lines under the car were a theoretical MOT failure... Same as having No CAT on a post 93 car too I suppose though

 

damo edit that post before anyone reads it

as i said before fair play if hes got it sorted and aint got a issue as dans car is not a rot box nor a death trap and he does drive like a pus,,,,,,, sorry safely

just we aont all got connections, people like me have to remove there ABS as they get failed on it not working proper

supose its secret jealousy

 

BTTT for an MOT tester to read

There you go Rob,lets have your input

 

Just read this and would like to ask how many of the people saying that aeroquip pipes are MOT failure are actually MOT nominated testers???

I am and have been for 5 years, It's Bollocks!!! You can only fail a car if it meets the VOSA "reason for rejection" and the book only says as follows:

Method of Inspection
Running the engine
This inspection is to be carried out both with and without the engine running.
1. Check the following for leaks or insecurity:
a. fuel tank Reason for rejection a. fuel leaking
b. all visible fuel hoses, pipes and unions Reason for rejection b. a fuel system component insecure.
c. all visible fuel components

Opening the luggage compartment
It may be necessary to open the luggage compartment to carry out a full inspection of the fuel system.
2. Check fuel tank cap for positive fit and condition of sealing washer and flange.
Reason for rejection
a. fuel cap does not fasten sercurely- by a positive means, or- such that pressure is not maintained on the sealing arangement
b. fuel cap sealing washer torn, deteriorated or missing, or a mounting flange/sealing method defective such that the leakage of fuel is possible
Locking fuel caps
If access cannot be gained to the fuel cap because it is locked and the key is not readily available or because it cannot be opened for some other reason see heading 2 of the introduction of this manual.

So IMO Dan fire away son with your Aeroquip pipes!

 

then explain to me why they use solid lines under the car,,,,,,, is that cause if a plastic clip snaps then the pipe dont hang

not all mot testers are purley " yes it meets the standard"

some look at the mods and wonder if theres a chance its not as secure as before

ive seen a car fail when it technically shouldnt but it did

 

Ginge.....


Give it up.... above are the rules as given out by VOSA

 

steve why give it up, it states secure, i also never said it woul have problems but he might

he said that he wont for other reasons so fair play to him

just how many would have just cable tied the lines under the car

 

a car CANNOT fail if its notin the reasons for rejection column


you cant just fail a car because this might happen or that might happen - if its not in the manual it DOESNT FAIL - simple as

 

but if they dont class is as secure though then it could

aslong as its secure and safe then dont worry about it

 

I was about to post something along those lines.

Ginge, even if the tester was not sure if he should fail it or not, he/she is advise by VOSA to "pass and advise."

 

Ginge, even if the tester was not sure if he should fail it or not, he/she is advise by VOSA to "pass and advise."



thats really not what happens at work as i asked about somink they wasnt sure off as as so they just said "if i dont find it safe i aint passing it, end of"

 

the one i asked about btw was the abs light, my car dont actually have one so theres not a light but theres abs and the rules are it mist come on for 20 seconds and go out

i dont have the light on my dash though so its a fail, even if the brake test is fine

but as said some mot places do use the rules to interpret there own version as i thought that if theres no light theres no test