General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

EsCos Questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:34 AM
  #1  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default EsCos Questions

Just wontering how stable the prices are? Do they depreciate much over the course of a year?

What are good thing to look for Full Ford service history? Are any colours more appealing than others etc??
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:35 AM
  #2  
Stealth Bomber's Avatar
Stealth Bomber
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,708
Likes: 0
Default

Do they depreciate much? LoL
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:38 AM
  #3  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:40 AM
  #4  
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 2
From: Norwich
Default

The most popular colour seems to be imperial blue large turbo cars with leather. These are as rare as Chip turning down the opportunity of bum sex with Cally though .

Finding a good one is a mission and then the good ones command healthy prices even now. Anything below the Ł10k mark is likely to be a basket case or have a dubious history.

Expect to pay Ł15+k for a good solid one with a traceable history.

One with all the bits on is worth a bit more than one without. Only buy a highly modded one if the engine has been done by someone reputable. Watch out for the transmission though, as above 350bhp, it really needs replacing with Quaife or Fixit gearkits.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:45 AM
  #5  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Cheers Mike will they hold their value (within reason). I.e if you bought the right one, kept the milage down and all service records to date?
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:50 AM
  #6  
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 2
From: Norwich
Default

Originally Posted by Mongo
Cheers Mike will they hold their value (within reason). I.e if you bought the right one, kept the milage down and all service records to date?
Not another bufty .

Drive it like you stole it .

They have so far, so I don't see that changing much. Good ones still change hand at around the Ł15k mark .

People used to laugh at spending Ł15k on an Escort a few years ago when Evo 6s were selling second hand for nearly Ł20k. Those same Evos are now Ł10-11k and the SAME Escorts are still Ł13-15k. Pretty much as good as you'll get depreciation proof (apart from the fact that you end up spending a fortune on them ).
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:58 AM
  #7  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

[quote="Mike Rainbird"]
Originally Posted by Mongo
Not another bufty .

Drive it like you stole it .

I'm deffinately not a bufty. lol

And the motto is sideways to victory! lmao

I've always wanted one, even if it was only for a year or so. The idea was to get a loan for the required ammount have a year or so of fun, sell it on. Then try and recoupe some of the losses when it's sold on. I understant that its going to cost to keep it on the road, but then most cars do! But i dont want to buy one and make a major loos on the vehicle too.

Make sence? Or am I just being silly as usuall?!
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:00 AM
  #8  
Disabled Account's Avatar
Disabled Account
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,078
Likes: 0
Default Re: EsCos Questions

Originally Posted by Mongo
Just wontering how stable the prices are? Do they depreciate much over the course of a year?
What are good thing to look for Full Ford service history? Are any colours more appealing than others etc??
Es Cos prices are rock solid Mongo Have been for several years now. As an example, I purchased my Radient Red 94/L big turbo model approx 4 years ago for Ł 12,500 It was a totaly standerd car with leather, air con, full service history and 72 k miles.......Even now in 2005 I doubt that you could buy a similar spec/colour/milage car for any less.

As Mike said, peeps favour Imperial Blue/Jewell Violet (very rare). Modified ones can "appear" to be good value BUT unless it's been done by a reputable company I would be very cautious about purchasing one.

Above all, if you are going to look at one prior to purchase, take someone along who knows these cars very well to inspect it. IMO best to let them drive it too as they will have a better "feel" for the car, and easily pick up faults/potential problems.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:01 AM
  #9  
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 2
From: Norwich
Default

All I can say is NEVER buy any car as a safe investment .
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:11 AM
  #10  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Point taken, I was by no means looking at it being a proffiable venture
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:15 AM
  #11  
Mr Brannen's Avatar
Mr Brannen
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,107
Likes: 0
From: Newcastle
Default

Aaaahhhhh Cossies and Bank Loans


Those fuckers go hand in hand, Cossies love Bank Loans and Credit Cards.

Hope ya not one of those"oh Im just gonna keep it standard" type, then 2 months in " ooh go on then a Stage 1 chip and Zorst wont hurt it", then 6 months in "wow look at them greens," then OMG I have to have that Pro Alloy Intercooler", then "well my T3 cant take much more , better get a T34

Honestly mate when that attitude sets in......and it will thats when ya "investment" goes out of the window and youre into it big time rison:
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:17 AM
  #12  
Lee Reynolds's Avatar
Lee Reynolds
Professional Waffler
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 25,714
Likes: 129
From: south yorkshire
Default

I bought an Aubergine small turbo model in April this year. I paid just a snip under 17k for it. Was 29k miles. no air con, no leather! Was as youd expect mint.... Sold it for more than i paid BUT...

Was a hassle. If you want to make sure you have a good resale value and appeal, then go for a big turbo with leather and aircon... As said imperial blue os the most popular, but if you find a low mileage one in pristine condition for under 18k then youve as good as won the lottery

In my experience of both Small turbo and Big turbo escorts, both under 30k miles and immaculate id give you this advice. Go for a big turbo, with about 45-50k miles, few little mods, plenty of history and not too many owners. Something you can enjoy and not just polish...but is nice enough to be proud of and will hold its value round what youd expect to pay for one at this level...around 14k

HTH
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:19 AM
  #13  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

If I'm of that mind then I'd be best off getting one that someone has spent the money on all ready
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:23 AM
  #14  
Mr Brannen's Avatar
Mr Brannen
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,107
Likes: 0
From: Newcastle
Default

Originally Posted by Mongo
If I'm of that mind then I'd be best off getting one that someone has spent the money on all ready
Exactly, but by a reputable tuner, Dark greens are dark greens, Turbos are Turbos, let someone else do all that you just make sure its all been done properly
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:25 AM
  #15  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Bit like these then just in a better colour lol
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:28 AM
  #16  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Who are reputable?
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:32 AM
  #17  
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 2
From: Norwich
Default

Mongo,
Find the car first .
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:33 AM
  #18  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Just a pipe dream at the mo
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:34 AM
  #19  
tenpotturbo's Avatar
tenpotturbo
Regular Contributor
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: mansfield
Default

my mate bougt a grey large turbo model about 360 bhp all services history and very clead for 14k of a forecourt 4 years ago and just sold it for 16k with 55k on clock but it was best example i ever seen
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:35 AM
  #20  
Disabled Account's Avatar
Disabled Account
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,078
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Mongo
Who are reputable?
Look here: https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=158268

Motorsport Developments
APT
SCS (aka Harvey Gibbs)
Power Engineering
NMS (aka Karl Norris)
PJ motorsport
AVA
PTS
Castle Performance
Severn Valley
SCC
Field Motorsport
Julian Godfrey
Grove garage
Reyland
Turbosystems
A1 Rallesport
Jamsport
MA Developments
Engine Advantages
Collins Performance
Jano Oddkid
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:35 AM
  #21  
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 2
From: Norwich
Default

Originally Posted by Mongo
Just a pipe dream at the mo
Thanks for the info, I can save my typing fingers now .

When / if you find one, let me know and I'll give you any advice / help I can.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:47 AM
  #22  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Sorry mike, just trying to work out if would be worth while
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:51 AM
  #23  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Mongo, bad idea for you i think personally, you drive FAR too hard to own an escos and not spend an absolute fortune on it, you cant just rape it around the lanes like you did your 230bhp nova mate, its just going to break constantly, especially the gearbox with how you drive, and thats a right ballache of a job.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:00 AM
  #24  
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 2
From: Norwich
Default

Chip,
They're not THAT fragile, but won't take the abuse of constant launching that is for sure....
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:09 AM
  #25  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Originally Posted by chip-3door
Mongo, bad idea for you i think personally, you drive FAR too hard to own an escos and not spend an absolute fortune on it, you cant just rape it around the lanes like you did your 230bhp nova mate, its just going to break constantly, especially the gearbox with how you drive, and thats a right ballache of a job.
In all fairness, I dont think I would drive it like that though mate... The thing is, think how much it would cost me to re-shell the Nova, about Ł150. 1/100th of the cost of a good escos.. I didn't care wether it got totaled or not, and therefor drove like a total coont.

In short I want to own one for pritty much the same reason as all of the other owners. I.e it's an iconic car, which is/was every boy's dream to own one.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:12 AM
  #26  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Fair enough, if you feel you are ready to be a grown up with cars it might not be such a bad option
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:00 PM
  #27  
ryan_belfast's Avatar
ryan_belfast
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 0
From: Northern Ireland
Default

listen to daddy chip here giving you a ball chewing....

if you want one mate, go for it...

Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:14 PM
  #28  
Mongo's Avatar
Mongo
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
From: Oxfordshire
Default

Originally Posted by Ryan_Belfast
listen to daddy chip here giving you a ball chewing....

if you want one mate, go for it...

He's got something constructive to say, I dont mind really. He will make sure I know all the pros and cons
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:28 PM
  #29  
Redkop's Avatar
Redkop
Member No: 39
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,263
Likes: 0
From: UK
Default

Originally Posted by Mr Brannen
Aaaahhhhh Cossies and Bank Loans


Those fuckers go hand in hand, Cossies love Bank Loans and Credit Cards.

Hope ya not one of those"oh Im just gonna keep it standard" type, then 2 months in " ooh go on then a Stage 1 chip and Zorst wont hurt it", then 6 months in "wow look at them greens," then OMG I have to have that Pro Alloy Intercooler", then "well my T3 cant take much more , better get a T34

Honestly mate when that attitude sets in......and it will thats when ya "investment" goes out of the window and youre into it big time rison:
Tell me about it
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:34 PM
  #30  
ryan_belfast's Avatar
ryan_belfast
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,388
Likes: 0
From: Northern Ireland
Default

Originally Posted by Mongo
Originally Posted by Ryan_Belfast
listen to daddy chip here giving you a ball chewing....

if you want one mate, go for it...

He's got something constructive to say, I dont mind really. He will make sure I know all the pros and cons
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:38 PM
  #31  
M7 COS's Avatar
M7 COS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,840
Likes: 1
From: Essex
Default

Buy the right car, keep it standard and the miles down and you won't lose much money it.

The problem is finding the right car!

Polaris Grey is a pretty rare colour too.

I'd just like to add there's been some really good advice on this thread so far, if you take notice of what these guys are saying then you won't go far wrong.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:40 PM
  #32  
Franco's Avatar
Franco
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11,383
Likes: 0
From: UK
Default

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
The most popular colour's seems to be imperial blue large turbo cars with leather.
Is that a joke...............The colour's putrid!!

Black (if you can find ) White, Jewel Violet or Mallard ARE the best colours IMO!
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:42 PM
  #33  
sufsRS's Avatar
sufsRS
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,917
Likes: 0
From: Batley
Default

the auralis blue one in the link seems to be worth checking out favourite colour is deffo auberjine after seeing lee's old one
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:42 PM
  #34  
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 2
From: Norwich
Default

Jay,
That's in YOUR opinion, I was stating what the FACTS are .
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:46 PM
  #35  
Franco's Avatar
Franco
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11,383
Likes: 0
From: UK
Default

Saying that any other colour OTHER than Imperial blue!

Micheal poke it up your harris!

PS don't buy one stating you'll be saving money etc................As Mike will know only too well!!
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:55 PM
  #36  
Redkop's Avatar
Redkop
Member No: 39
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,263
Likes: 0
From: UK
Default

I saw a nice 'N reg' Auralis Blue one with 280bhp for sale last Saturday, fully chromed engine bay, lux model with leather etc at a dealers. I had a good nosey round it and it was a very nice example for Ł15k. Was owned by an RSOC member.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 01:06 PM
  #37  
DaveEscos's Avatar
DaveEscos
BANNED
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,032
Likes: 2
From: Mongsville, wiping Jimbo.'s spastic arse.
Default

TBH.. if the car is the right car... fuck the colour IMO..

saying that.. i wouldnt have a white, auralis blue or a jewel violet one I dont think



Found mine easily about 3 years ago.. 1 owner from new (60 yr old) had done 40k. Mint as you like with a few light mods. Ł14k

Still.. as for resale value .. I put mine as it stands now at well over Ł20k.. so it will probably only ever be broken up for parts
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 01:09 PM
  #38  
M7 COS's Avatar
M7 COS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,840
Likes: 1
From: Essex
Default

Originally Posted by Franco
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
The most popular colour's seems to be imperial blue large turbo cars with leather.
Is that a joke...............The colour's putrid!!

Black (if you can find ) White, Jewel Violet or Mallard ARE the best colours IMO!
That's just your opinion.

The fact is that Imperial Blue is one of the most desirable colours of Escort Cosworth.

Whereas White, Mallard and Red are all quite undesirable.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 01:15 PM
  #39  
Daveyboy's Avatar
Daveyboy
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,825
Likes: 0
From: Chez Croxley
Default




imperial blue.... looks all good to me
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 01:15 PM
  #40  
Franco's Avatar
Franco
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11,383
Likes: 0
From: UK
Default

White & Mallard...........Undesirable........I take it thats your opinion then.

I know of one imperial blue owner in the esc cos forum, compared to the other colour ranges, to me that says its not that much of desirable colour!

What colour do you own then?

FRS was the only car it suited really.

EDITED - 2 forgot about Cola's
Reply



All times are GMT. The time now is 10:43 AM.