i asked on the vauxhall site, but no one knows. just thought i would check on here in case anyone knows.

im just about ready to out my 2ltr engine in my nova. but im short a few bits.
i need a rear gearbox mount and the bracket that goes between the passenger side mount and the engine. (3 bolts to the engine, and 2 to the rubber mount)

a mate of mine is stripping a diesel nova and said i can have both of that.
but will they work with my engine and gearbox or do they need to be from a petrol nova?

Cheers guys

 

Chip is ya man I think matey for them, (Chip3dr), couple of others on here as well too, PM him and Im sure he`ll help you

 

The rear gearbox mount might not be the same matey.

The rubberised end mount (cradle) should be ok, only two 7mm allan bolts holding it onto the engine/gearbox mounts

As for the rear gearbox mount/linkage, i dont think it will be suitable, just use one off a C20XE, they arn't hard to comne by.

The gearbox bracket should be fine, the nearside gearbox mounts are the same except on the F28 box

If you are in doubt, mix and match, you will be surprised what parts fit what

 

yeah i've spoke to him a few times before about stuff, just wasnt sure if he would know if the lay out of the mounting system was the same for petrol and diesel novas.

im sure he'll see this when he comes on and put me straight!

 

i didnt think the xe mount would fit. if thats the case im ok then as my box still has the mount bolted on it.
it just didnt look the same as the one i took off. the nova one looked longer. but its been a while since i've seen it now.

Im putting the engine in on sunday so i will soon find out.

 

You're meant to use the XE mount anyway, but it will need spacing out with a plate to level the engine and stop it twisting forwards.

I take it you have a custome offside mount (one under thermostat)>?

 

Oh by the way, if you're talking about the gearbox mount, the black box section arm thing....then the one on the diesel will appear longer.

It is longer, for the simple reason the F13 box is smaller than the F20 and the F13 mount arm has to reach further to meet the box.

The F20 mount is shorter because the F20 sits closer to the bulkhead

 

yeah i have the 10mm spacer, longer bolts and the custom offside mount.

and actually i have just remembered i bought uprated mounts, and i think there was 3 in the pack. maybe one of them in the rear gearbox mount.

 

everything is falling together now. hopefully i can use my uprated mount, and the bracket on the f20.

I HOPE!

 

Should be cool mate, just to save you the hastle, do the mounts in this order.


BOlt rear gearbox mount to gearbox

Then lift the engine in through the bottom, whilst nearly in place, bolt the two other mounts on with their 3 bolts each to the block and gearbox

then lift the engine more, and line the gearbox mount cradle to the chassis

once you done that, lift the offside of the engine up and slot the square mount in

once those two are there you can dive under and fit the 2 bolts into the rear mount to the floor pan

 

sweet, i'll try that. at the moment the car is totally stripped, all suspension, brakes, tie bar etc are gone, only thing left to do is attack it with a hammer to allow for the alternator.

cheers for the help mate

 

Yeah, if you're doing it with a hammer, use a round head copper hammer. That way you won't make a mess of the chassis leg.

Or you could go the whole hog, cut out the clearance and box it off

What you doing about the inlet, The SFI box?

 

oh yeah, i remember reading about that. cant exactually remember what it said now though.

chances are if sunday goes as bad as im expecting it to, the SFI box will get better acquainted with my big round hammer.


i was gonna cut it out and box it, but ive ran out of gas on my welder, and if u saw my welding then u would agree that the hammer option will be neater anyway.

 

lol i'm sure it'll be fine.

Did you go for the hockley kit or just a seam weld?

 

Sorry mate, only just got on line, but it sounds like Spence has sorted you out now anyway.

The diesel F15 mounts are the same as on a petrol F13 nova, but like snowy said its the F20 ones you need anyway.

Bet you cant wait to get it finished. NovaXE is a fantastic little toy

 

rear gear box- metal from the nova with 10mm spacer and rubber from the nova.

Drivers mount- Custom metal 1 and rubber from the nova

front gearbox mounts- metal from the nova and rubber from the nova

gear linkage, flip the white plastic lug over. self explanatory when u see it

 

metal bit from the nova on the front mount?

could have sworn on both mine i used the f20 one :S and certainly you have to on the f28 as the plate is totally different fitment

i stand corrected though, long time since ive put an xe/let into a nova now TBH!


Nice one Chris for clearing that up

 

i get the hockly kit, but i was starting to lose interest in the project so i gave up welding in the kit, finished the seam welding and now i just want the engine in.

is wiring it up hard?
i heard that the vauxhall enigne loom was rather well self contained and its only about 6 wires that need sorting out.

 

i cant wait, im just praying that the engine runs! i aint heard it running, it compression tested ok but was out of the car when i bought it!
but i only paid 200 quid for it with the f20 and a full wiring loom.

 

Dead easy to wire up mate, just a few wires, details on migweb somewhere if you get stuck but its all quite obvious really.

 

what costs are involved in converting a nova to XE?

 

Almost none.

You just need a nova gte, a scrap cav gsi and a pair of mk2 cav 1600 inner cv joints.

REALLY cheap project
And as quick as a stnadard cossie! (and 40mpg+)

 

hmm, whats the handling on a nova like?

 

plus how cheap?

 

Cheap = a grand

Handling = fucking terrible unless you get decent shocks and springs and all polybushed (500 quid ish)

Brakes from the cav bolt straight on and are awesome on a nova really

(for cav you can also use astra gte/gsi or 16 calibra)

 

not cheap enough for me

Something to look at i guess LOL

 

lol Chip, you inadvertantly corrected me on what gearbox the D and TD had....it was F15 lol like you said....i'm ashamed not knowing that after owning a handful of nova TD's lol

As for wanting to give the project up, don't worry, 99% of people i know felt like that when they came to put the engine in, me being one of them. Just stick with it, once the engine is bolted in and sitting right, the rest is childs play

If you got any problems with the wiring, post up in here and we'll get you rigged up proper

Oh, and like Chip said, plenty of XE's out there, get an old astra GTE/Gsi, cav SRi 16v/GSi Calibra 16v

XE's are bullet proof if looked after, mine NEVER let me down in the mornings, and even when i ragged the tits off her 6300rpm @ off the clock constant for 10 minutes, she still idled like a kitten

Good luck anyway

 

pieace of piss to wire up!

my XE nova cost me Ł600 including buying the car.
Can be done easily in a week end out side.
engine out friday night welded up sat and sat on mounts.
sunday wire up/ pipe up all rest of niggly stuff, fit and modify exhaust sun nite

 

I took the easy option by getting an astra for two reasons

1) No welding needed

2) I value my life

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Thats for
Nova gte = 300 quid
asrta gte = 300 quid
cheap set of shocks and springs = 200
Misc (ie cv inners) = 100 quid


Could be as much as 2 grand all in quite easily though to do a decent job.

 

which is the better car then?

Astra GTE 16v
Nova XE

 

Which is better, rwd fiesta cossie or rwd saph cossie?

Same answer, depends on what you want!

 

for general track abuse, and occasional faster car scaring LOL

 

Both handle like greasy weasels
Both rust


So pretty much alike in that sense

 

LOL - just dont know whether to do an xe nova, or look at the pug 205 gti route again..

 

pug205 mi16 handles straight away, nova takes some effort.

Xe is a better engine for abusing and badly maintaining though!


For cheap reliable thrills, an XE nova is as good as it gets really!

 

cheers for that mate! appreachate it!

I'll get there in the end. i need something to keep up with my mates 200BHP xr2, and my other mates rather quick orion. i know the xr2 is likly to be quicker but he has owned it for months now, and its only ever ran right for abour 2 weeks!

 

Gas the XE nova and they wont get anywhere near you.

 

lol yes but the XR2 it will be 2.1 zetec soon enough! As you know though i am a fan of any modded car and am actually really really looking forward to this project finally being done. Its been long enough! At one point i was gonna buy one remember! Will be completely different drive to our turbo lumps. So i call shotgun on the first run! Ill come round sunday after work no problems if your still doing it.

 

Not a bad idea that! Would be a bit fairer