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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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I'm after some advice on speakers, I've not got 1k too spend though

I bought this yesterday
Onkyo CR505 DAB
for my bedroom music (barry white, Lionel richie etc )



Play varying music ranging from damien rice, audio slave, kasabian etc

The units awesome for £220 very impressed at the clarity and volume and I've only got it hooked up to some el pantos panasonic Stand mounts.

I'm not sure on whether go for two floor standing speakers or stand mount size, I presume the floor standers would provide a punchier sound and have a wider range.

my budgets up to £150 ish if you could reccomend anything.

The unit above is only 25 watts per channel and it also has a sub output.
Would it be able to drive say 100 w floor standing speakers well? Its slowly destroying my panasonic efforts at the moment

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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I've not got 1k too spend though
That's just his consultancy fee
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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I've not got 1k too spend though
That's just his consultancy fee
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ste_gt
I'm after some advice on speakers, I've not got 1k too spend though

I bought this yesterday
Onkyo CR505 DAB
for my bedroom music (barry white, Lionel richie etc )



Play varying music ranging from damien rice, audio slave, kasabian etc

The units awesome for £220 very impressed at the clarity and volume and I've only got it hooked up to some el pantos panasonic Stand mounts.

I'm not sure on whether go for two floor standing speakers or stand mount size, I presume the floor standers would provide a punchier sound and have a wider range.

my budgets up to £150 ish if you could reccomend anything.

The unit above is only 25 watts per channel and it also has a sub output.
Would it be able to drive say 100 w floor standing speakers well? Its slowly destroying my panasonic efforts at the moment

Cheers,
steven
I'm not doug, but i am the engineer who designed the best audio system in In car Original Equipment so may be able to comment.

You say 25watts. I assume this is RMS power and not peak. It may well struggle with the floor standers. Do you know the peak output of the unit you've just bought? From that you can then start matching it to speakers.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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I've not got 1k too spend though
That's just his consultancy fee
I wish.....................

Steven, on a budget of £ 150.00 forget floorstanders............at that price they will be quite nasty

Better to spend the £ 150 on a pair of compact stand/bookshelf loudspeakers........

Some reasonable loudspeakers available at that price.

Your first stop should be Richer Sounds, either their on-line shop or better still, visit one of their many shops and have a listen to whats available........

......you may end up spending a bit more - say £ 200 - £ 250.......a bit over your budget, but you'l notice a fair bit more performance for your money in this price bracket (especially in the bass and loudness region)

http://ws4.richersounds.com/productl...UNT&sort=price

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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I'm after some advice on speakers, I've not got 1k too spend though

I bought this yesterday
Onkyo CR505 DAB
for my bedroom music (barry white, Lionel richie etc )



Play varying music ranging from damien rice, audio slave, kasabian etc

The units awesome for £220 very impressed at the clarity and volume and I've only got it hooked up to some el pantos panasonic Stand mounts.

I'm not sure on whether go for two floor standing speakers or stand mount size, I presume the floor standers would provide a punchier sound and have a wider range.

my budgets up to £150 ish if you could reccomend anything.

The unit above is only 25 watts per channel and it also has a sub output.
Would it be able to drive say 100 w floor standing speakers well? Its slowly destroying my panasonic efforts at the moment

Cheers,
steven
I'm not doug, but i am the engineer who designed the best audio system in In car Original Equipment so may be able to comment.

You say 25watts. I assume this is RMS power and not peak. It may well struggle with the floor standers. Do you know the peak output of the unit you've just bought? From that you can then start matching it to speakers.
Amplifier: 25 W/Ch int4 (1 kHz), WRAT (Wide Range Amplifier Technology), Discrete output stage circuitry, Tone control (Bass/Treble), Tone direct and 3 audio inputs and 2 outputs.


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http://www.urban75.org/tech/onkyo-CR-505DAB.html
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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I've not got 1k too spend though
That's just his consultancy fee
I wish.....................

Steven, on a budget of £ 150.00 forget floorstanders............at that price they will be quite nasty

Better to spend the £ 150 on a pair of compact stand/bookshelf loudspeakers........

Some reasonable loudspeakers available at that price.

Your first stop should be Richer Sounds, either their on-line shop or better still, visit one of their many shops and have a listen to whats available........

......you may end up spending a bit more - say £ 200 - £ 250.......a bit over your budget, but you'l notice a fair bit more performance for your money in this price bracket (especially in the bass and loudness region)

http://ws4.richersounds.com/productl...UNT&sort=price

Doug.
Cool,

Any particular brands you could reccomend or is it personal preference with most of them?

Also, I'd love to see what your setup is like (hi-fi wise) I bet its a beast.

Cheers for the info, much appreciated!

steven
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Any particular brands you could reccomend or is it personal preference with most of them?
Also, I'd love to see what your setup is like (hi-fi wise) I bet its a beast.
Cheers for the info, much appreciated!
steven
Very important to hear the speakers before purchasing, idealy with your tuner/amp driving them. TBH it's difficult to reccomend a brand but you cant go wrong with KEF/Mission/Morduant Short/Celestian/
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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Cool,

If you feel the need to test any of your speakers with my little system feel free to send them down, specifically anything worth at least 1k. Purely for market research purposes you must understand

Much appreciated info, thank you.

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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OK, no problem.

Try not to get bitten by the Hi-Fi bug........it works out expensive over time

Originally Posted by ste_gt
Also, I'd love to see what your setup is like (hi-fi wise) I bet its a beast.........steven
Will take some pics this evening..........and post up.

But for now:

Speakers are Wilson Audio System WATT's and WAP's, known as Systwm 6 (Tiny Tots + Puppys).....in piano black (not yellow lol....but was tempted as they do ANY colour the customer wants):




Amps are Audio Resaerch.....all tube (valves) Pre Amp is LS25 Mk2/3



Power amp (my one is silver not black as pictured)....VT-100 (latest balanced input version):

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Celestian and Fane make some of the finest cones going - its all we used in th Matamp equipment when i worked there
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Fooking hell, that makes mine look like a poxy mp3 player
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Doug,
Don't you think that that is a bit overkill considering your "Boyzone" taste in music? .
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Doug,
Don't you think that that is a bit overkill considering your "Boyzone" taste in music? .
True,

but it really does bring out the warmth in his earlier "take that" collection



Doug, I still haven't got to see your place yet - you've got to let me have a listen to some of this stuff
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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OK, no problem.

Try not to get bitten by the Hi-Fi bug........it works out expensive over time

Originally Posted by ste_gt
Also, I'd love to see what your setup is like (hi-fi wise) I bet its a beast.........steven
Will take some pics this evening..........and post up.

But for now:

Speakers are Wilson Audio System WATT's and WAP's, known as Systwm 6 (Tiny Tots + Puppys).....in piano black (not yellow lol....but was tempted as they do ANY colour the customer wants):




Amps are Audio Resaerch.....all tube (valves) Pre Amp is LS25 Mk2/3



Power amp (my one is silver not black as pictured)....VT-100 (latest balanced input version):

I hope thats not how they are positioned in the room? Certainly overkill.

Mordaunt Short are owned by richer sounds so personally wouldn't touch them.

Something like an infinity Kappa maybe alright, but i don't think you have enough power.

Nowt wrong with the Eltaxs they've used, but something like the below links

TEAC
http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/conten...de=TEA-L-SH250

or KEF
http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/conten...KEF-CRESTA10BL

These are only a suggestion and like doug say's if you can hear them then go for it.
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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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early Mordaunt Short were the nads for the price ... the sound quality was truly impressive not heard any of the newer stuff tho
i have a pair of old jbl l220's big and beefy

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