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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Hi peeps going to buy an escort rs turbo what things should I look out for?, going to spend about £2000 I've been told to go for the 90's spec because they have so called a better engine not sure if this is true or not and they look a little better. Your words of wizdom will be a great help thanks.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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FLOORPAN = RUST!!

get a good look under that baby!

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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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oh...and avoid dump valves
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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a 90spec engines didnt differ from 88spec except for the green thing on the inlet! dont think it made it "better" as per say....just had "better" front bumper and rear spoiler!
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FLO
oh...and avoid dump valves

Sorry m8 Im new to rs turbo's why do you say stay away from dump valves?
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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The engines are the same in any standard S2...

Flo has a point, rust is the biggest thing to look for really. Under teh arches, battery tray, fuse box, floorpan, basically everywhere. Engines are a lot cheaper and easier to replace than bodywork.

I don't think you will get a lot for 2 bags of sand though, you might be lucky.

Good luck
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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they rust on the roof where the tailgate hinges this is a common occurance and behind the sun roof (take a magnat allong),the usual places to check like battery tray area strut tops inside the boot too.
Get your hand up inside the wheel arches to check for rust behind the body kit.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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stay away from dump valves cus they sound wank! oh and they dont save your turbo! but having said that i dont think they hurt it either!
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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check for excessive rust on rear chassis,inner and outter sills,battery tray,under both rear body kit arches,bulk head and front panel,

ps @ the end of the day it's a 15yr old Ford (they do rust) IF your unsure take some one with you that does
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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im no exoert mate...at the end of the day im a chick..i'm not allowed but i know my s2 drove miles better when i got shot...!!!

not only do they sound crap but they made the drive poo too!

If you're a burberry cap, hackett shirt wearing chavemeister aged 17 3/4 then keep the thing but i'd recommend ya dump the dump valve
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Right then mate, I've owned quite a few of these over the years. And what the guys n gals are saying is right:

Basically:

Rot:

Battery tray, inner wings, under bodykit, under wheelarches, chassis legs, look at the boot floor where it joins the rear wheelarches. Stuff like that.
Rust or bubbles behind the sunroof etc as said before.

Bodywork generally:

Look out for accident damage, bad panel gaps, rippled panels or badly painted or mismatching panels, iffy welding particularly at where wings join front panel. Stuff like that.

Ringers: Check all the ID numbers and VIN plates are there and haven't been messed with. VIN plates, chassis tag by the drivers seat on the floor under the plastic flap, and make sure they haven't been cut out and/or replaced. And check the engine number if you can find it.
Check the numbers against the log book and DEFINITELY 100% do an HPI Check before buying it.

Engine. Make sure it starts up cleanly on 4 cylinders hot or cold, doesn't tap (too much, they all do a bit) or clatter. Pulls smoothly and doesn't smoke too much. Normal things for an engine really.

Don't buy one without any history because it's more than likely it's not been looked after or has done more miles than the seller tells you.
Also, amke sure it's got a decent amount of MOT on it as well, if it's only got 3 weeks the chances are the reason is that the seller knows it's going to cost a fortune to get it through another one.

I've got to say it's a bit of a minefield. A lot of the really bad ones will have been scrapped by now. But like some of the other guys said, if you're not confident about what you're looking at take someone else with you.

And the 90 spec car is only cosmetically different really, front bumper, rear spoiler and other minor bits. I do like the 90 spec cars best I must say, but I think it's a case of finding a good car generally rather than just going all out for a 90 spec.

I'll warn you, I would say the majority of these cars have had a bump of some kind or other in their life, even if it's minor, so don't go out thinking you'll get something that looks like it's just come out of the showroom unless you're willing to pay top money.

Get a good one and you'll be grinning from ear to ear. Get a bad one and you'll wonder why you bothered.

PS I hope this hasn't put you off, I just want you to go into it with your eyes open. And of course if I didn't love RS cars I wouldn't be here, so that must tell you something.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Prepare for a labour of love my friend as they do try you from time to time!

But....i'd never own anything else!! although a 350z is calling me i'd miss the ford crew too much and i've made too many great friends so i'm sticking with the fords!!

You'll have to post when you find one....would be good to see what you get!

Anything you're not sure of make sure you post...like Trev said you need a goodun!!

nice one trev!
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TrevCos
Right then mate, I've owned quite a few of these over the years. And what the guys n gals are saying is right:

Basically:

Rot:

Battery tray, inner wings, under bodykit, under wheelarches, chassis legs, look at the boot floor where it joins the rear wheelarches. Stuff like that.
Rust or bubbles behind the sunroof etc as said before.

Bodywork generally:

Look out for accident damage, bad panel gaps, rippled panels or badly painted or mismatching panels, iffy welding particularly at where wings join front panel. Stuff like that.

Ringers: Check all the ID numbers and VIN plates are there and haven't been messed with. VIN plates, chassis tag by the drivers seat on the floor under the plastic flap, and make sure they haven't been cut out and/or replaced. And check the engine number if you can find it.
Check the numbers against the log book and DEFINITELY 100% do an HPI Check before buying it.

Engine. Make sure it starts up cleanly on 4 cylinders hot or cold, doesn't tap (too much, they all do a bit) or clatter. Pulls smoothly and doesn't smoke too much. Normal things for an engine really.

Don't buy one without any history because it's more than likely it's not been looked after or has done more miles than the seller tells you.
Also, amke sure it's got a decent amount of MOT on it as well, if it's only got 3 weeks the chances are the reason is that the seller knows it's going to cost a fortune to get it through another one.

I've got to say it's a bit of a minefield. A lot of the really bad ones will have been scrapped by now. But like some of the other guys said, if you're not confident about what you're looking at take someone else with you.

And the 90 spec car is only cosmetically different really, front bumper, rear spoiler and other minor bits. I do like the 90 spec cars best I must say, but I think it's a case of finding a good car generally rather than just going all out for a 90 spec.

I'll warn you, I would say the majority of these cars have had a bump of some kind or other in their life, even if it's minor, so don't go out thinking you'll get something that looks like it's just come out of the showroom unless you're willing to pay top money.

Get a good one and you'll be grinning from ear to ear. Get a bad one and you'll wonder why you bothered.

PS I hope this hasn't put you off, I just want you to go into it with your eyes open. And of course if I didn't love RS cars I wouldn't be here, so that must tell you something.
saved me typing it
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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What TrevCos wrote

Love mine to bits and have no intention of parting with it. I wanted 90 spec so just added all the bits. Not hard to do
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Take that list with you and as said, body work and rot can be alot more expensive to sort than a mechanical problem.

Also, if the owner takes you for a spin, make sure he opens it up and gives it a good run, then when you return, see if he turns it straight off, 2 reasons for this

a) turbo's need tiime to cool down so should be left to idle for a while after a spanking, he the owner doesn't do this, it may not have been treated to well.

b) there may be over heating problems, so check out that gauge.

Also, look for leaks before the test run, then again after, the owner may have cleaned any oil leaks up, but a good run will get them leaking again, also check that the oiul filler cap hasn't been blown off or dipstick blown out, think this is a sign of worn rings

Also make sure the engine is cold when you arrive, ask for this before you view, often sellers will warm the car up a bit due to cold start problems. Make sure it's cold, and if you ask for it to be and it isn't, gotta think why??

Another thing to look at is the make and condition of the tyres, if it has decednt tyres on then the owner hasn't been a cheap skate with it, not a reason to walk away but helps build up an idea of how it has been looked after.

Hope you find one, 2K should get a half decent S2 with some reasonable mods that will give some happy motoring.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Check for rust everywhere & whats that other thing you have to look out for ermmm ehhhhhhhh ummmmmm oh yeah that's it ......... more rust!
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Thank you all for your info been very very helpful will post pics of my motor when she arrives, going to take my time on this one. selling my 205 1.9 gti so will have more money to put to my RS once again thanks!
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Just found this 1 looks n good condition and good price too https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129547
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You will fall instantly in love with it.... And subsequently fall instantly in debt FOR it...

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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo.jon
Just found this 1 looks n good condition and good price too https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129547
cheers mate thats my car and your right it is a GREAT car for the money i reckon.espiacially after you all talk of the dreaded rust
my cars SOLID underneath in the boot,footwells underbonnet,sunroof is mint which is another nightmare place apparently.its got 2 tiny bits of surface rust from chips not being fixed and left but NO holes at all.
think folk thinf for 2k its going to be rotten
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