well just had a phone call from my tunners grove garage, suppost to be having a new cam and lifters , and then they said u have major low oil pressure u need a bottom end rebuild and they said they wont rebuild a 1.6 its not worth it and they cant build a 1.9/1.6 rebuild as there booked for nearly a yar and dont have time for more re-builds, so they said they can get me a 2.1zvh running bout 250bhp from fiest frenzy for ฃ2500, im not sure wat to do.
Please can anyone advise me on wat to do either go 2.1zvh engine or get mine rebuilt by someone else or have a 1.9 bottom end wit a 1.6 head rebuild, wats best some rough prices would be good and wat would happen wit my old engine an all the part that are on it could they be re-used or wat
Current spec:
• Pace Intercooler
• -31 Actuator
• AB Engineering Custom Chip
• CVH 34 Spec AB Engineering Custom Cam
• Stage 1 Turbo .48 Exhaust Housing
• Cosworth Brake Conversion (Calipers, Grooved & Cross-Drilled Disks,)
• Koni Adjustable Dampeners
• AB Engineering Custom Springs
• Poly Bushed All Round (Dampeners, Engine Mounts, Exhaust Mounts)
• Adjustable Front Strut Brace (Blue)
• Steering Rack Raised By 2mm With Up Rated Bushes
• ABS Removed
• Full Mongoose Exhaust 3.5” Out Rolled **
• Shortened Cut Down Gear Stick
• Near fully blinged engine bay

 

if you was to go for the 1.9 or 2.1zvh you would have to have a new chip made to suit the new engine but if you get yours rebuilt you can keep every thing else as it was before

 

Selling you a new engine is the easy way of saying ... sorry mate we can't be arsed. Find somewhere else if you want to keep that one IMHO.

 

is it worth gettin a new engine or just gettin mine rebuilt wat will be the best option most reliable and wat u reakon im lookin for in price for
a/ rebuild mine
or
b/getting a 2.1zvh

 

totally agree there, i would go elsewhere personally

 

get a seond opinion mate
sure someone will want the business.
what about you removing engine and getting it sent away to someone who will rebuild it

 

Sounds bollox, they're trying to sell you what they want to give you. Go elsewhere

 

will msd not do it?

 

i want to get it rebuilt i think i just not sure where to go

 

as above mate go somewhere else what kind of garage can say there booked for a year

 

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99889

have a read at the above thread
i know where id be going next time

 

If you want a US 1900, then call Euro Engines - they'll do it for about half of what Grove Charge and they have always been absolutely spot on with me everytime I used em. You can usually get booked in pretty quick too - and if you don't want a US 1900 they will just rebuild your 1.6....

 

yeah ill be ringin stu @MA and euro engines do they take old engines in for part ex

 

Stu would rebuild your original engine mate.

 

As above if they won't rebuild it take it to somebody that will. SOunds like a bit of a cop out to me.

 

quite a big thread on fiesta turbo. com where a kid has been waiting a year for his new engine. i feel grove just started to fit the big turbo boys in those with the money meaning people they know from the scene. maybe wrong. try specialised engines in grays the have a web site too www.specialisedengines.co.uk i think thats it if not the advertise in the back of one of the ford mags

 

think ur right escort1989uk they doing two cossies at mo 500bhp and 600bhp one

 

Sounds just like a tuner I know.

They just reckon they can milk you for alot of money. Go somewhere else IMHO.

 

If any of you guys that have jumped on the band wagon saying,,,,, they are fobbing you off, can't be arsed or trying to sell you a new engine had actually been to grove and used them would know they are definatly not fobbing you off!!! They have work coming out there ears

They are always choc a bloc down there cars rammed in and they really haven't got the time to waste rebuilding engines. Im sure if they did they would be making money doing it not passing work out to other companys don't you think?

Grove garage is the only comapny i know that do not advertise and are always completley booked out and have a waiting list......... That speaks for its self to me

 

Yes, but ALL tuners have customer who are totally loyal. Like you. Fair play.

BUT, the lad asked for an opinion, and every gave their opinion. Any tuner that says, we can't rebuild yours, but we'll sell you an different expensive one, is copping out. If they were being truly honest they'd say, we don't have time to rebuild it for you, but we can reccomend you go to company X, OR we'll sell you expensive product Y.

 

But thats what they told him they haven't got time and they reccomended ian howell (fiesta frenzy) who builds engines all day long So there not selling him one to make money are they?

 

well i do like grove and mark burley is a top bloke has always helpedme in the past he did say they were to busy for rebuilds and as sexy aRSe says they never advertise and are always full to overflowing and they prob would rather do 500bhp cossie as theres moremoney in it my car has been to there garage for everthing in last 9 years i have onlyowned it 18months im not fookin them off just tryin to get some ideas on wat to do and where else i could go

 

thing what i was getting at faye is you never seemed to have to wait that long when you wanted your car mapped did ya now this is not personal just a observation

 

What do you know?

My car was there 3 months alltogether on and off and that was after waiting nearly a month to get the call to say there was a space to bring it down I just waited my turn like everyone has to Yes its was fustrating waiting so long but good things come to those who wait They had a huge backlog of work when i first took it down

 

im sure i see ur car at grove b4

 

You probably did

 

it is sweet as lovly car top blokes at grove did ahmed bayjoo chip and map ur car wats ur spec

 

Yeah he sure did Thanks And grove done a lot of work on it my car was mission impossible something kept going wrong all the time lol Intercooler collapsed on the final map the first time Then sensors went tits up lol

Its a 1.6 efi blueprint engine, stage 3 head, with bigger injectors stage 3 hybrid turbo with .63 abarth housing, bernie stage 2 box Lots of goodys

Goes alright for a cabrio

 

DO NOT use specialised engines IMO

 

cool im loving ur interior love the seats there awesome,im goin to stay wt grove just not going for the 2.1zvh they said they will fit any lump i get some looks like i might go for 1.9american tall block, then get it sorted to same spec i had the 1.6

 

Cheers mate

Just ask Mark what he recomends and the pro's and con's of each spec can't go wrong then

 

dont worry not goin for specialised engines gonna give euro engines a ring
i will be askin mark wat he says bout both

 

 

well im goin for a 1.9 bottom end wit my 1.6 head spoke to mark and he said euro engines are pretty good for the bottom end job and they are happy to set it all up and tune it (they wouldnt do this if they thought euro was a sh1t company) and mark said he has never had a prob wit s.e either an ian is a good mechanic so he is gettin me a mate rate price for there 1.9bottom end we will see just need money of mommy and my new pro alloy intercooler