I have a bet with someone that has a scooby, he's chipping it and a few other things but the engine is not coming out not even the head, so I was wondering what the most bhp he could get without uprating the internals. I'm just checking to make sure I haven't made a mistake.

 

what bhp/model is it to start with?

 

all the "normal" turbo models have cast pistons which is very limiting, sti etc can go further though.

 

What model impreza is it & what car have you got?
Cos if you've got a stock cossie & he's got a wrx or an sti - he'll eat you alive & spit ya out the exhaust!

 

have you made a bet for a race??? might be a big mistake as ive just bought my first impreza which is 255bhp and it would piss on my previous 2 cosworths(stg1+3) and my 350bhp skyline r32 gtr up to 125mph and the handling is about 10 times better than a cossie and about twice as good as a skyline gtr...i just wish i had bought one years ago

mark

 

He's got an sti to start but having work dones this week but no internals or head work, mines an Escort, on greys with a T38, 500 ic, 7.5-1 cr, bd14 & 50bhp Nos.

 

wouldnt like to call it.... sti has the strong internals and probaly good for 350/360bhp mods before engine has to come out.

mark

 

I think you will piss him mate

 

i would bet in your favour mate

He'll probs melt a piston anyway

 

Scoobies are totally over rated, My mates WRX is slower than my S2 in a straight line once rolling

Seen several RR days when cars with the PPP haven't made close to the claimed power outputs

 

Come on boys have faith, You'll piss it mate bet your house aswell to prove your a dedicated blue oval man!!

 

I had a play today with a WRX today, a K Reg one with large exhaust. I was in the Focus RS (showing my mated who just took me out in his ferrari 360) and i had to keep backing off. Not got a clue what power it was but he was trying and i certainly wasn't impressed, if the road wasn't so twisty i probably could of got past him.

Arn't the Sti's a lot quicker though?

 

IIRC you can get 400 not too much probs on std internals with the right bits and bobs.

You should still be ok tho.

 

LOL @ pgtips. They are the easiest drivers to upset as the really do believe they have the best and fastest cars on the road. Their faces are a picture as they are left trailing behind an old Ford You can imagine the excuses being dished out to the mail order girlfriend in the passenger seat

 

gotta love the forever on going scooby v cossie debates. considering a YB has technology at least 10 years older than any impreza out there i think a cossie owner can be proud no matter what!

we had a brand new impreza sti type uk thing at work a couple of weeks back. had a "holly clarke" conversion done on it, not sure what it involved but it was supposed to be running 365bhp and capable of sub 4 second 0-60. off the line it was totally awesome but get it past 90 and it just became lifeless, things were bleeping and flashing, traction control was in and out, the brakes were shocking and the understeer on it was worrying!

as for the interior at least my saph has the excuse of being 15yrs older than it for having a great slab of plastic in front of the driver. whats subarus reason?!?!

 

Thats quite bizzare on a car that doesnt fookin have traction control

Have good brakes too!

Whos Holly Clarke? Wasnt she a pornstar?

 

if it didn't have tc then it had one hell of a bastard miss on it!

as for holly clarke, no idea to be honest. the demo car we had came from some place in coventry, i only tried to show a interest in it cos my boss loves em and i want a payrise

 

They dont have traction control

 

Just hope you can drive mate not what power he's gonna have, if you can use your Escort to its potemtial then you should be fine, but then who wants to do that on a public highway!

Good Luck if you've got 2 grand riding on it!

 

might be a big mistake as ive just bought my first impreza which is 255bhp and it would piss on my previous 2 cosworths(stg1+3) and my 350bhp skyline r32 gtr up to 125mph


think you have to learn to get off the line a bit better(in a Cossie)as a stage1 or 3 Cossie WILL kill a 255bhp Scooby n e day of the week.

your money's WELL safe.

 

My stage one killed my 240 scoob once rolling and my stage 3 saw it off even more. As said above 1st, 2nd gear it felt really good but once into 3rd was gutless.

Thats why my cos stayed and scoob went just wish i could get round corners now as quick

Jap spec sti's they seem to be the ones to have very good above 300 hp on all accounts.

Very good all round car for the money though you cant fault them

 

ok then,i have 2 grand with you 0-125mph as above... your stage 1 cossie against my 255bhp type ra .... you better start learning your 'off the line technique'

regards mark

 

i can assure you there was most deffinately something on this one cutting the power off and it wasn't the rev limiter as it wasn't revving that high at that point

slightly confused now!

 

 

Well you was driving a car that understeered bady, had bad brakes, traction control, slow past 90 even with 365bhp, and was tuned by someone called holly clarke.

You sure you was driving a brand new STi scooby as it fucking well dont sound like it

 

had a sti badge on the back and 05 on the number plate so i think so. even my boss said about the brakes and understeer so i wasn't just dreaming it but please bear in mind i only drove it for at most 10 minutes and i'm no pro race driver

 

stage 1 cossie v 255 bhp scooby maybe a close thing from 0to60 but
0yo125 my money is on the cossie but as for pissing a stage 3 saff
are you sure

 

im sure... a standard wrx type ra has 240bhp,a group n close ratio box,standard 0-60 in 4.6 and a top speed of 128mph due to the gearing...are you sure to 125mph ???

mark

 

Another thing.

For a fairly low priced (For what you get) car, a STi scooby interior is pretty cool

 

by the way,im not trying to start a car war here...ive been in the rs owners club for 23 years and owned 26 'rs' cars over those years and love my cossies....im a car enthusiast and not blinkered,but it makes me laugh when people start c
omparing rs turbos to subarus and slag imprezas off saying they are slow and crap...trust me there are some good ones out there

mark

 

now thats deffinately a taste thing

 

my stage 3 saff has been timed 0 to 60 in 4.8 which is rwd on standard gearing
and i'm not exactly the best driver in the world but since then have done a lot
of 1/4 mile run's so will be hoping to beat that this year as am now getting the
hang of getting it of the line
i have driven plenty of scooby's and although a couple have impressed me of the
line to me they seem to die once in third gear

 

my last car was a stg 3 sapphire and i can honestly say this car would beat it to 60,100 and 125... the type ra's are geting on for 7500rpm at 125 mph in top so you dont want to be over 90 for long and the best speed for motorway cruising is at 65-70mph (4500rpm)....i chose the car because in the real world most driving is done below 125mph and has corners

mark

 

Ya never said it was an RA to start with

Forgot about them and the gearing

 

Most do UK, jap spec wrx ones etc apart from thr P1, STI's

M8 had a P1 and a couple more had a V5 and V6 sSTI type r's and you could really tell the difference with them, the P1 had an awseome 5th gear what pulled so well.

 

a 255bhp scoobhy being faster than a stg 3 cozzy i would be seriously questioning the stg 3 bit as that is quite simply not possible
scooby255bhp v coz 330bhp, the scooby wont win in a million years

 

thats exactly what i said in an earlier thread and fagin jumped on it big style he realised he was wrong, apologised and bought me a pint and a refresher bar

 

All in the gearing though they are really quick due to this.

From a none blinkered cossie owner

 

i couldnt give a monkeys how the gearing is and i aint blinkered as my brother has a prodrive one, a few of my mates have been timed and 4.43 was the best from a stg 3 coz, i would love to see a scooby with 255bhp 'PISS' on that time, it is bollocks, i would say that his stg 3 was never puttin out stg 3 power

 

@ this time I chose to say nothing apart from Mark wakeup man