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Old May 26, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Why is it that the F Reg Escorts don't seem to rust as much as the other years. I have an Escort Cabbie and it has never needed any welding round the floors etc but when I look at the newer RST's they need a bit. Did Ford get the bodywork etc from another source for this year.

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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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i noticed that too, no idea
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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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The Cabbie's were built by Karman, all the ones i have seen has never had any rust on them, unless damaged of course, im thinking there was something different about the metal on these, as a lot people i know has noticed this too.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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My F plater was terrible!! My D plater is mint
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Old May 26, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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heres the truth,

pre 90 metal on fords was from china and total shite,cheap and rusts quick,
the cabbies were a different source
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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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My E reg is quite bad, hence why its being stripped in the summer
Bubbles beside sunroof & front pillar. Underneath isnt much better either.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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cabs very rarely go rusty

all hard top escorts rust
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Old May 26, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Ha ha I was told a totally different story! I was told the Dreg was german metal, and strong as fuck, then the made the EFGs with the spanish metal which was shit, they realised this and went back to the German for the H plate. Not saying thats the truth but just one side of the story. Cant be true though cause My E reg is completely spotless rustwise!
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Old May 26, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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^^ heard something similar to that myself.

prob. all bs
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I think I'll stick to my Cabbie then until I get my hands on a series 1.
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Another question. I've noticed that water sits in the battery tray area on my car after I have washed it which I don't like the idea of. Has anyone thought about putting a rubber strip along the back edge of the bonnet to stop the water getting in?

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Old May 26, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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beter to put it along the wing edge

wont save the world but it does do a job if you are carefull

if you park on a drive with a hill always park nose down

water wont sit in there all the time u aint using it then
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Old May 27, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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Ive found both my G regers to be nice and clean, my h plate was a snotter

I 'heard' on one year the metal was left outside and went shite, as above probs bs! anyway, I believe that its still metal and will still lrust whatever the year, imo its how its been looked after throughout its life which depends on overall condtion!
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Ha ha I was told a totally different story! I was told the Dreg was german metal, and strong as fuck, then the made the EFGs with the spanish metal which was shit, they realised this and went back to the German for the H plate. Not saying thats the truth but just one side of the story. Cant be true though cause My E reg is completely spotless rustwise!
same here my e plate is in mint condition,no rot,rust etc
just a bit smashed after some wank hit it
as where my g plate is like swiss cheese,floor non existent
think fred flinstone was the last owner
my mates have got a h plate which is in need of some work and other mates got a f plate which is mint(belonged to rs_si)
think it just depends on whether the previous owners have looked after them or not
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the cabs where built in germany by karman thats why they dont rust! german engineering!

the others were built by spanish siesta taking holiday loving lazy pedroes!

nothing personal!

and i heard it was the D reg that the metal was shite! spose its luck of the draw really! My H plate is clean except bad accedent rapair which im gunna sorted!
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Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
Another question. I've noticed that water sits in the battery tray area on my car after I have washed it which I don't like the idea of. Has anyone thought about putting a rubber strip along the back edge of the bonnet to stop the water getting in?

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I have that same question, except I think theres now a hole there because in aberdeen the weathers a fucking joke, im so pissed off today, its pissed down since about 10am and now its pelting off the ground. I dont even want to look at the passengers carpet. I get so upset over it, i put a car cover over it and dish towels over the bonnet and my dad ripped them all off and called me a fool. So 2moros plan? Spend like 4 hours with the hoover sucking up all the wet carpets, its like I pay for everything but my dad cant be assed doing anything about it when he calls himself a car dealer.

Its a touchy subject but im sitting here away to blow a fuse with him, he can do what he wants to hurt me but NOT my car!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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the passenger carpet problem! u know why that is?

i have the same thing and was thinking along the lines of sunroof! the ole watr pipes not goin where there sposed to!
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Either that or rotten Battery tray!
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Old May 28, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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i had a h-plate and it was relly mint until it got a sold to a friend,who just abused it.then the whole car just turned into a ball of rust,i think its gone to heaven now tho,apparantley the bulkheads are reknown for going on h-plates,my f-plate has a little rust which needs weling where thr front bumper mounts on to which is in the process!!
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Originally Posted by james_birch
the passenger carpet problem! u know why that is?

i have the same thing and was thinking along the lines of sunroof! the ole watr pipes not goin where there sposed to!
Its definetly not the sunroof babe. If you look right up underneath the glove box it runs down in a really thin line then collects just where you'd have your feet in a small pool. I really am stressed out with this! I dont know whither to believe people when they tell me what it is because I spent shit loads on new disks, a new steering rack and getting the brakes stripped down when it wasnt even nescessary.

The only logical answer seems to be the battery tray - but then looking at it I cant see how anything could pass through there its not really rusty at all, just a few discoulourments here and there but nothing to the extent where water could dribble down the way it does. Something has to be done though, as I dont want to the floor to rot or the car to need serious weilding.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Wet passenger carpet?Sorry but 95% of the time it's due to the battery tray is rotten.
Remove the battery and stick some sealer down along the bulkhead for a temporary fix.Once the battery is out the problem will become quite obvious

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Old May 29, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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the holes appear under the grating 1st

u cant see under there, put ur hand up undeer the glovebox and u will mostlikerly come back down with a hand full of metal/dust there buggers for that
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for real,the battery tray,the screw that holds the battery clamp on has possibly penetrated the metal the tray sits on,check my thread,all will be clear ,trust me,the other thing ,the water runs down your bonnet edge ,hits your bonnet rubber then runs down your strut housing onto your bat tray,remove the rubber and cut a channel where it sits against the wing cill,(out of the rubber with a sharp knife),like a little diamond of rubber,removed to promote the water flow,replace the rubber,and next time it lashes down ,less water will flow onto your bat tray,or fuse box(other side),juss remember to keep the hole clear of debris!

my car was constantly wet,not any more!
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easiest thing to do is take your dashboard out,i know but its not as hard as you think,just a case of locating all the bolts
then you wont miss where its comin in and just either get it welded up or seal it up if its not too bad
just mind how you took it out so you can put it back in same way
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Julia, this is almost definatley the battery tray, but i wouldn't be to concerned it's not a big job and done properley it will look like new I'd get it done sooner rather than later though the floors on these cars rust like f*** as soon as they see any moisture Shame your not closer cos i could of done it for yer

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Ive been hoovering up the water with the dyson every morning...just working out what to do and who to get to do it...
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Not that much actually gets in considering how much it rains here, but still that litle tricle could do a lot of damage so im told.
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Julia, what to do, battery tray repair panel from ford. . and a good welder/painter. . its not a small job, so it may cost !!

its a pretty much front interior out inc dash,. . . !
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dyson= electric,+water in carpet =

check my thread,(s2 prob,now sorted)
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As above, firstly, u will likely find a hole if u look under the dash i'd agree with everyone else thats what the prob is, and yes, get it sorted asap as the water will be soaked into the carpets and the soundproofing underneth making things even worse!

And using an electrical appliance to suck water up? what are you thinking
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Whys that bad???
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Whys that bad???
cus water and electric dont mix! well they do but it normally ends in fatality!

only good thing about mixing them is you will die quicker!

never seen green mile?!
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Thought a Dyson could pick up liquids, as they have that see through tank on the front?? I might be Wrong.
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Oh god yea i have seen the green mile! Dont scare me! My dad said it would be OK...I know I piss him off sometimes but....jesus!
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Originally Posted by Julia
Oh god yea i have seen the green mile! Dont scare me! My dad said it would be OK...I know I piss him off sometimes but....jesus!
does he sit by the window watching you with his fingers crossed mouthing the words " go on god do it plz god do it!"?...lol


only joking!
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He even gets it out the cupboard for me, I think maybe I should stop my tantrums in this case!

Sorry daddy x x
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i know arrund 85-86 (mainly early mk4s ) suffered badly, a fridn of mine had a c reg pop plus mk4 and i have never ever seen a car rust so bad, i dont know what was holding it together, cabs are generally good and i think the box section underneath makes a difference, as the floor dont seem to rust!
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[quote="james_birch"]the cabs where built in germany by karman thats why they dont rust! german engineering!

the others were built by spanish siesta taking holiday loving lazy pedroes!

The RST's where assembled in the Saarlouis plant. That's in germany. So that 's also german engineering.
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Originally Posted by james_birch
the cabs where built in germany by karman thats why they dont rust! german engineering!

the others were built by spanish siesta taking holiday loving lazy pedroes!

The RST's where assembled in the Saarlouis plant. That's in germany. So that 's also german engineering.
were they? not what i read! ..oh well..they have spanish workers there?
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while u have the battery tray out, its worth checking the a-pillar aswell, just look up inside, its proberly rotten aswell, gotta do mine soon, as its so bad, its cracked the a-pillar from the outside!, nearly all the way through!!
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