FAO Everyone; Reference the “Chip” Situation.
Thread Starter
PassionFords Creator
iTrader: (12)
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 28,824
Likes: 95
From: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
FAO Everyone; Reference the “Chip” Situation.
Ok guys and gals,
I came to work this morning and logged into PF with a brew as usual and was met with a whole host of topics related to the recent banning by our Moderator Mr. Manchester of the user “Chip”
Due to workload it has regrettably taken me until now to read all the relevant threads, and then, importantly I feel, read them all again as an outsider to gauge as best I can a new members perspective.
As I see it; A new user has joined us and been met with some very heavy banter from a few users, most notably “Chip” It has been said this could have been spurred on by the slightly Controversial username of the member in question, but that is by the by as far as I am concerned.
I agree with everyone that this banter from Chip was both excessive and unwarranted, not to mention unnecessary even if the lady on the receiving end was a hardened forum user and well used to such treatment. For the record I personally don’t want that kind of posting style to start polluting the generally friendly posting and topic style that PassionFord currently enjoys, not because I want to silence folk like Chip with his unique sense of humor, but because I don’t want new forum users to misunderstand the meaning of such controversial posting styles and take offence, which could VERY easily happen when such an attack is levied at a new individual.
The rape comment side of things I think was taken out of context by most people but it was still a comment that was unacceptable for PassionFord no matter what the context or the user. Make no mistake, had the comment been aimed directly at Emma instead of being in reference to another PF user this essay would have a different ending to the one you will soon read.
I want to make it clear that Mr. Manchester was fully within his rights to ban Chip for this incident and he has my full backing. Please remember, the fact the thread took 12hrs to develop is wholly irrelevant when you come along and read all 5 pages at once, then to that user the whole issue is only minutes old, which throws a different perspective on things, but the fact is, personally levied abuse is outside our acceptable behavior criteria and a ban is possible at the moderators discretion. Andy exercised his discretion last night. End of Story for me.
So what shall we do now?
I will now make the controversial decision to unban chip, due largely to three simple facts:
1) Chip did indeed apologize to the lady in question, and, at least publicly, had that apology accepted.
2) Chip has expressed remorse for upsetting people and indicated there was no malicious intent behind the comments and they were in fact just examples of banter taken way too far.
3) He deserves a 2nd chance as do most users in most cases. The rules clearly outline how these cases are dealt with should anyone wish to review them so I see no need to repeat them here.
I would however like Chip to acknowledge that boundaries were overstepped on this occasion and that we would like him to tone down his personal insults in the future and perhaps reserve them for members whom share a similar sense of humor, and if he does wish to engage in personal banter with consenting members, that he do so in a manner that will not be offensive to other members. I.E: The rape and rough sex fantasy he obviously shares with Miss T16, whilst not an uncommon fantasy and role-play topic, it is not really a topic I want to see on my Ford Forum In the future. That way no one can get upset.
Hopefully, this decision will agree with the masses and not cause too much upset amongst our valued members.
Finally:
All those who complained that it took too long to be moderated.. well, erm, Where were your PM's and compliants? The webteam is NOT equipped with a crystal ball each and if they havent read the problem, they are bloody unlikely to do anything about it. Help US to help YOU eh?
I came to work this morning and logged into PF with a brew as usual and was met with a whole host of topics related to the recent banning by our Moderator Mr. Manchester of the user “Chip”
Due to workload it has regrettably taken me until now to read all the relevant threads, and then, importantly I feel, read them all again as an outsider to gauge as best I can a new members perspective.
As I see it; A new user has joined us and been met with some very heavy banter from a few users, most notably “Chip” It has been said this could have been spurred on by the slightly Controversial username of the member in question, but that is by the by as far as I am concerned.
I agree with everyone that this banter from Chip was both excessive and unwarranted, not to mention unnecessary even if the lady on the receiving end was a hardened forum user and well used to such treatment. For the record I personally don’t want that kind of posting style to start polluting the generally friendly posting and topic style that PassionFord currently enjoys, not because I want to silence folk like Chip with his unique sense of humor, but because I don’t want new forum users to misunderstand the meaning of such controversial posting styles and take offence, which could VERY easily happen when such an attack is levied at a new individual.
The rape comment side of things I think was taken out of context by most people but it was still a comment that was unacceptable for PassionFord no matter what the context or the user. Make no mistake, had the comment been aimed directly at Emma instead of being in reference to another PF user this essay would have a different ending to the one you will soon read.
I want to make it clear that Mr. Manchester was fully within his rights to ban Chip for this incident and he has my full backing. Please remember, the fact the thread took 12hrs to develop is wholly irrelevant when you come along and read all 5 pages at once, then to that user the whole issue is only minutes old, which throws a different perspective on things, but the fact is, personally levied abuse is outside our acceptable behavior criteria and a ban is possible at the moderators discretion. Andy exercised his discretion last night. End of Story for me.
So what shall we do now?
I will now make the controversial decision to unban chip, due largely to three simple facts:
1) Chip did indeed apologize to the lady in question, and, at least publicly, had that apology accepted.
2) Chip has expressed remorse for upsetting people and indicated there was no malicious intent behind the comments and they were in fact just examples of banter taken way too far.
3) He deserves a 2nd chance as do most users in most cases. The rules clearly outline how these cases are dealt with should anyone wish to review them so I see no need to repeat them here.
I would however like Chip to acknowledge that boundaries were overstepped on this occasion and that we would like him to tone down his personal insults in the future and perhaps reserve them for members whom share a similar sense of humor, and if he does wish to engage in personal banter with consenting members, that he do so in a manner that will not be offensive to other members. I.E: The rape and rough sex fantasy he obviously shares with Miss T16, whilst not an uncommon fantasy and role-play topic, it is not really a topic I want to see on my Ford Forum In the future. That way no one can get upset.
Hopefully, this decision will agree with the masses and not cause too much upset amongst our valued members.
Finally:
All those who complained that it took too long to be moderated.. well, erm, Where were your PM's and compliants? The webteam is NOT equipped with a crystal ball each and if they havent read the problem, they are bloody unlikely to do anything about it. Help US to help YOU eh?
Trending Topics
PassionFord Post Troll
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,518
Likes: 1
i have yet to coment on this for fear that people would take my coments from a ''i am only here because i know chip so am bound to stick up for him'' point of view but i am glad that all the facts have been taken onboard and an outcome has been deicided based on those facts not some peoples interpetation/opions (sp) of the facts
very well dealt with 
Virgin
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
I promise i wont abuse newbies anymore, and ill keep my twisted ideas of a sexlife off the board 
But everyone else is still fair game as far as im concerned.
Cheers for Stu to sorting it all out like a grown up.
Chip
p.s
my chip-3door account still seems to be banned though, can that one be reactivated as its the one with my paid up membership attached to it.
But everyone else is still fair game as far as im concerned.
Cheers for Stu to sorting it all out like a grown up.
Chip
p.s
my chip-3door account still seems to be banned though, can that one be reactivated as its the one with my paid up membership attached to it.
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 6,116
Likes: 0
From: Northants
Originally Posted by * Rudey *
p.s
my chip-3door account still seems to be banned though, can that one be reactivated as its the one with my paid up membership attached to it.
no u ugly ugly mofo
my chip-3door account still seems to be banned though, can that one be reactivated as its the one with my paid up membership attached to it.
no u ugly ugly mofo
Banned
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Cheers for unlocking this account.
Will try and tame it down in future with regards to newbies.
Dont want to cause all that sort of fuss again , Ive got more threads on here about me than IMA at the moment.
Im sure he will correct that by tonight though
Will try and tame it down in future with regards to newbies.
Dont want to cause all that sort of fuss again , Ive got more threads on here about me than IMA at the moment.
Im sure he will correct that by tonight though
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,303
Likes: 0
From: Coventry
http://www.cafepress.com/socceram.11584687
That is for all you Soccer AM / Chip Fans!
I thought it was appropriate LOL
That is for all you Soccer AM / Chip Fans!
I thought it was appropriate LOL
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,463
Likes: 23
From: Manchestoh
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Ive got more threads on here about me than IMA at the moment.
Im sure he will correct that by tonight though
Im sure he will correct that by tonight though
Which petrol station should i use for 600BHP
Will my Rotty pull my foreskin back like its running 600BHP
Can i throw my perch line with 600BHP
How to build a 600BHP supercar, available every week at your newsagents through De Agostini, 1st issue only Ł1.95
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,463
Likes: 23
From: Manchestoh
Originally Posted by b19bal
who cares, you lot made Stu soooooo busy he forgot to gap me plugs he sent me
i say shoot chip as now i gotta do some techy stuff
i say shoot chip as now i gotta do some techy stuff
just finding my feet
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 41,052
Likes: 2
From: Im behind you
i dont need tickle arms mate, i got a cowboi to do all the techy stuff for me
but now i gotta phone stu to see the correct gap for em
infact i think ill just save the money on the phone call and drive to stus place
but lets shoot chip anyway
ps think he shpuld buy the first round in the hotel as a thanks bribe
welcome back chippy
but now i gotta phone stu to see the correct gap for em
infact i think ill just save the money on the phone call and drive to stus place
but lets shoot chip anyway
ps think he shpuld buy the first round in the hotel as a thanks bribe
welcome back chippy