How were cossies regarded in the 80's/90's?...
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How were cossies regarded in the 80's/90's?...
Who owned one during these times?...
As much as I love them I seem to remember them being regarded as a kind of hooligans cars?...
Did this differ much from the sapph, 3 door to the escos?
Did they also command high money like now?
As much as I love them I seem to remember them being regarded as a kind of hooligans cars?...
Did this differ much from the sapph, 3 door to the escos?
Did they also command high money like now?
They were up there with the best of them in the 80s
and down there with the Corsa's in the 90s.
The tide started turning again in around 05 for the 3drs and and a good few years later for the saffs.
and down there with the Corsa's in the 90s.
The tide started turning again in around 05 for the 3drs and and a good few years later for the saffs.
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I can remember from when i was in primary school the.local villains and general scum of the earth had them. You would often see them with scuffs and dents all over them or parked half up grass verges. They were totally unloved and they only had them as Merseyside police had senator 24v's that where no use through housing estates.
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It had been stolen from Tarporley and was involved in a chase once back in Speke. It was in the middle of the road leaking oil and coolant and the front bumper was missing. This was an amazing find for us 10 year olds in 1993. we had come across it around 9:30 am after me and a few.friends had been on the mains with our bikes. It seemed like an age for the police to turn up and take it away. The copper that turned up was ok though and was laughing about they lost it when they where chasing it!!
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on the upside do you remember the black unmarked one from the programme X Cars in Manchester? It was around 1994 on Bbc1. They also had a cav turbo, facelift RS2000 and Astra GSI. And a few marked up sapphire cosworths and xr4x4's. From what incan remember they mainly followed the people in the black sapphire and they constantly had it in 3rd gear.
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on the upside do you remember the black unmarked one from the programme X Cars in Manchester? It was around 1994 on Bbc1. They also had a cav turbo, facelift RS2000 and Astra GSI. And a few marked up sapphire cosworths and xr4x4's. From what incan remember they mainly followed the people in the black sapphire and they constantly had it in 3rd gear.
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I love all the old stories about them been pinched back in the day.
A lad I work with used to work at a ford main dealer in the 90s when the saffs 4x4s first come out. He said a transporter pulled up with a brand new saff on the back. The driver of the truck pulled up and went inside to tell the staff the new cars had arrived. By the time the driver went back to the truck the saff had been pinched.
A lad I work with used to work at a ford main dealer in the 90s when the saffs 4x4s first come out. He said a transporter pulled up with a brand new saff on the back. The driver of the truck pulled up and went inside to tell the staff the new cars had arrived. By the time the driver went back to the truck the saff had been pinched.
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Possibly with the exception of the Mk5/6 RS2000 all RS's are still as 'steal able' as they ever were - there just aren't as many about these days and those that are about are generally cherished and not used as everyday transport I would suspect.
Given half the chance, they'll still get lifted.
Given half the chance, they'll still get lifted.
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I love all the old stories about them been pinched back in the day.
A lad I work with used to work at a ford main dealer in the 90s when the saffs 4x4s first come out. He said a transporter pulled up with a brand new saff on the back. The driver of the truck pulled up and went inside to tell the staff the new cars had arrived. By the time the driver went back to the truck the saff had been pinched.
A lad I work with used to work at a ford main dealer in the 90s when the saffs 4x4s first come out. He said a transporter pulled up with a brand new saff on the back. The driver of the truck pulled up and went inside to tell the staff the new cars had arrived. By the time the driver went back to the truck the saff had been pinched.
An Ansa logistics truck from the rail yard had parked on the main road as it wad quicker to unload there apposed to coming into the compound. On the back was a pair of jag s type supercharged things. He took the first one off and took it to the bodyshop reception. While he was in there a scally come along on his pedal bike and done a fair trade. Fortunately as the cars only have 12 miles of fuel in them at best it was found on western ave parked up.
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Some of the stuff that used to happen when i was working for peoples was unreal.
A guy picked up his brand new fiesta freestyle driven it out the main gate to the junction with Speke hall road and then pulled out on a car and it got smashed to bits.
Damaged in transit car an escort flight estate had fallen off the top deck of an Ansa transporter from the the ramp above the cab. They forgotten to chain it down and when going to the gate it got launched into the floor. When it was parked outside the bodyshop the sills had bent so the front wheels could not touch the floor, doors jammed shut and the a posts and roof gone also. Looked like a banana!!
St200 squashed by the top deck on a train, they couldn't see it in the dark and thought it was all clear to unload the top deck.
caught on cctv on the pitch a mondeo zetec with the 16" cosworth type wheels had its wheels stolen. From start to finish it took 3 lads 1:40 to smash the window get the locking nut and jack ot and take all the wheels. The service manager said he should employ them as they worked quicker than us.
its a surprise many people had fords in Liverpool around the late 90's early 2000's with them getting smashed in transit etc. Nevermind getting stolen like a sierra
A guy picked up his brand new fiesta freestyle driven it out the main gate to the junction with Speke hall road and then pulled out on a car and it got smashed to bits.
Damaged in transit car an escort flight estate had fallen off the top deck of an Ansa transporter from the the ramp above the cab. They forgotten to chain it down and when going to the gate it got launched into the floor. When it was parked outside the bodyshop the sills had bent so the front wheels could not touch the floor, doors jammed shut and the a posts and roof gone also. Looked like a banana!!
St200 squashed by the top deck on a train, they couldn't see it in the dark and thought it was all clear to unload the top deck.
caught on cctv on the pitch a mondeo zetec with the 16" cosworth type wheels had its wheels stolen. From start to finish it took 3 lads 1:40 to smash the window get the locking nut and jack ot and take all the wheels. The service manager said he should employ them as they worked quicker than us.
its a surprise many people had fords in Liverpool around the late 90's early 2000's with them getting smashed in transit etc. Nevermind getting stolen like a sierra
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I grew up with these cars and had a fair few. It was when Ford used to make fairly quick cars (pro rata with todays models) without a Porsche price tag and without any input from the Co2 bashing brigades that exist today.
They were awesome cars and well capable of beating a lot of very renown and much more expensive cars in standard form. Once they were "chipped", that was it, they were in a totally different league. Forget your Porsche 911's, Lancias Thema 8:32, Intergrale, M3's, M5's, Merc 500s, 24V Senator/Carlton's. Cosworths were cheaper and faster.
In the 80's and 90's car security was simply shit and anyone that wanted one just had to basically find one parked up somewhere. It wasn't just Cossy's but Austin Metros, Astra GTE 16v, Escort XR/RST and the list goes on. Joy riding was all the craze with insurance companies eventually sticking their fingers up with new premium prices that'd cost more than the car. From memory the Vecta was a common immobiliser and easily bypassed. It was either that or a Harry Moss alarm
I can't really remember what year it was but around late 80's - early 90's but my Insurance went up from something like £400 to over £4k. It didn't help that I had a licence that had a Welsh accent as it'd been to Swansea so many times for speeding. I was in one of the national papers for allegedly travelling at over 140mph and found not guilty. Only to be done later for 124 by the same copper.
The insurance was so expensive, people used to go without it (I didn't). If you came across the Police who wanted to pull you, you just went into 3rd gear, squatted the back end down and just went up the gearbox. A few corners later they wouldn't have a clue where you went.
That's pretty much were the bad boy image came from with the owners. After the Cossy's it was then taken over by Evos and Scooby's.
They were uninsurable to some and got so cheap that you could pick them up really cheap. I had 3 at one time but they were a liability and made way for more practical cars. The favourite and alternative legal way to drive one was to get insurance on another car, with the policy enabling you to drive "any other car" Insurers soon done away with that and even not allowing traders policy any cover.
It'd be interesting to know the final numbers made to the numbers stolen.
They were awesome cars and well capable of beating a lot of very renown and much more expensive cars in standard form. Once they were "chipped", that was it, they were in a totally different league. Forget your Porsche 911's, Lancias Thema 8:32, Intergrale, M3's, M5's, Merc 500s, 24V Senator/Carlton's. Cosworths were cheaper and faster.
In the 80's and 90's car security was simply shit and anyone that wanted one just had to basically find one parked up somewhere. It wasn't just Cossy's but Austin Metros, Astra GTE 16v, Escort XR/RST and the list goes on. Joy riding was all the craze with insurance companies eventually sticking their fingers up with new premium prices that'd cost more than the car. From memory the Vecta was a common immobiliser and easily bypassed. It was either that or a Harry Moss alarm
I can't really remember what year it was but around late 80's - early 90's but my Insurance went up from something like £400 to over £4k. It didn't help that I had a licence that had a Welsh accent as it'd been to Swansea so many times for speeding. I was in one of the national papers for allegedly travelling at over 140mph and found not guilty. Only to be done later for 124 by the same copper.
The insurance was so expensive, people used to go without it (I didn't). If you came across the Police who wanted to pull you, you just went into 3rd gear, squatted the back end down and just went up the gearbox. A few corners later they wouldn't have a clue where you went.
That's pretty much were the bad boy image came from with the owners. After the Cossy's it was then taken over by Evos and Scooby's.
They were uninsurable to some and got so cheap that you could pick them up really cheap. I had 3 at one time but they were a liability and made way for more practical cars. The favourite and alternative legal way to drive one was to get insurance on another car, with the policy enabling you to drive "any other car" Insurers soon done away with that and even not allowing traders policy any cover.
It'd be interesting to know the final numbers made to the numbers stolen.
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Went to the Launch of the 3 door, well lets say i stumbled on it at a Motor Show .
How did i regard them back then well it was a Ford so i didnt at the time. The Saff passed me by completely & only whem we were passed by a Escort with a bit stuck on the back did my son point out an Escort version existed.
It changed in 1996 when my son suggested a Cossie as a base to build a fast car. I wanted a 3 door but they were very skitty to drive so settled on a Saff. To me a Cossie is RWD the others are Mike Rainbird orientated
. Still think the 3door in white is a beautifull car but only to look at.
How did i regard them back then well it was a Ford so i didnt at the time. The Saff passed me by completely & only whem we were passed by a Escort with a bit stuck on the back did my son point out an Escort version existed.
It changed in 1996 when my son suggested a Cossie as a base to build a fast car. I wanted a 3 door but they were very skitty to drive so settled on a Saff. To me a Cossie is RWD the others are Mike Rainbird orientated
. Still think the 3door in white is a beautifull car but only to look at.
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Who has the flint grey sapphire cosworth that the first owner had to sell after his Mrs was caught on the local bypass at 130mph+
i remember reading it the other week
i remember reading it the other week
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I'd imagine there was numerous amounts been sold with the owners been banned from speeding.
Speeding was more socially accepted then along with other motoring offences. It's not often nowadays you hear of people been slapped on the wrist and told to behave, unlike now where everything is geared up to give you a financial loss in one form or another.
Parts were expensive for these and for the people then that couldn't afford to replace x,y & z part, there was always some scrote who'd offer you a whole complete, freshly nicked one for a couple of hundred £'s.
My best mate was really big into doing rally/performance cars and had quite a few them at any one time. He used to deal with insurance companies taking there write offs and stolen recovered ones from them. I done the 4x4 stuff as in Land cruisers/Patrols for overseas competitions in the same yard. I was 18 or so when I had my first one and they were called whale tails then.
Cossy's really could be maggot magnets and the money we spent keeping these vermin away was untold but they still use to try.
Speeding was more socially accepted then along with other motoring offences. It's not often nowadays you hear of people been slapped on the wrist and told to behave, unlike now where everything is geared up to give you a financial loss in one form or another.
Parts were expensive for these and for the people then that couldn't afford to replace x,y & z part, there was always some scrote who'd offer you a whole complete, freshly nicked one for a couple of hundred £'s.
My best mate was really big into doing rally/performance cars and had quite a few them at any one time. He used to deal with insurance companies taking there write offs and stolen recovered ones from them. I done the 4x4 stuff as in Land cruisers/Patrols for overseas competitions in the same yard. I was 18 or so when I had my first one and they were called whale tails then.
Cossy's really could be maggot magnets and the money we spent keeping these vermin away was untold but they still use to try.
the thing is though £6k was worth a lot more 20 years ago than it is now.
I paid £7k for my first saph in iirc 2000 a g reg 2 owners car 52000 miles and stage 3 and was mint.
they were the dogs danglies, it was the first cossie I ever went in and was driven by a proper hooligan drifting out of every junction lmao, when he sold it I had to have it and that's where my power hunger began 14 years ago.
if I ever had another now though it would have to be along the lines of rods but with 4x4 and air con.
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I spoke to a bloke last week and he was going on and on about his past cars and said he had a 4x4 saph and was very disappointed! said his XR4x4 was faster and all over better car (even though he said one passed him and he could never catch it).
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I grew up with these cars and had a fair few. It was when Ford used to make fairly quick cars (pro rata with todays models) without a Porsche price tag and without any input from the Co2 bashing brigades that exist today.
They were awesome cars and well capable of beating a lot of very renown and much more expensive cars in standard form. Once they were "chipped", that was it, they were in a totally different league. Forget your Porsche 911's, Lancias Thema 8:32, Intergrale, M3's, M5's, Merc 500s, 24V Senator/Carlton's. Cosworths were cheaper and faster.
In the 80's and 90's car security was simply shit and anyone that wanted one just had to basically find one parked up somewhere. It wasn't just Cossy's but Austin Metros, Astra GTE 16v, Escort XR/RST and the list goes on. Joy riding was all the craze with insurance companies eventually sticking their fingers up with new premium prices that'd cost more than the car. From memory the Vecta was a common immobiliser and easily bypassed. It was either that or a Harry Moss alarm
I can't really remember what year it was but around late 80's - early 90's but my Insurance went up from something like £400 to over £4k. It didn't help that I had a licence that had a Welsh accent as it'd been to Swansea so many times for speeding. I was in one of the national papers for allegedly travelling at over 140mph and found not guilty. Only to be done later for 124 by the same copper.
The insurance was so expensive, people used to go without it (I didn't). If you came across the Police who wanted to pull you, you just went into 3rd gear, squatted the back end down and just went up the gearbox. A few corners later they wouldn't have a clue where you went.
That's pretty much were the bad boy image came from with the owners. After the Cossy's it was then taken over by Evos and Scooby's.
They were uninsurable to some and got so cheap that you could pick them up really cheap. I had 3 at one time but they were a liability and made way for more practical cars. The favourite and alternative legal way to drive one was to get insurance on another car, with the policy enabling you to drive "any other car" Insurers soon done away with that and even not allowing traders policy any cover.
It'd be interesting to know the final numbers made to the numbers stolen.
They were awesome cars and well capable of beating a lot of very renown and much more expensive cars in standard form. Once they were "chipped", that was it, they were in a totally different league. Forget your Porsche 911's, Lancias Thema 8:32, Intergrale, M3's, M5's, Merc 500s, 24V Senator/Carlton's. Cosworths were cheaper and faster.
In the 80's and 90's car security was simply shit and anyone that wanted one just had to basically find one parked up somewhere. It wasn't just Cossy's but Austin Metros, Astra GTE 16v, Escort XR/RST and the list goes on. Joy riding was all the craze with insurance companies eventually sticking their fingers up with new premium prices that'd cost more than the car. From memory the Vecta was a common immobiliser and easily bypassed. It was either that or a Harry Moss alarm
I can't really remember what year it was but around late 80's - early 90's but my Insurance went up from something like £400 to over £4k. It didn't help that I had a licence that had a Welsh accent as it'd been to Swansea so many times for speeding. I was in one of the national papers for allegedly travelling at over 140mph and found not guilty. Only to be done later for 124 by the same copper.
The insurance was so expensive, people used to go without it (I didn't). If you came across the Police who wanted to pull you, you just went into 3rd gear, squatted the back end down and just went up the gearbox. A few corners later they wouldn't have a clue where you went.
That's pretty much were the bad boy image came from with the owners. After the Cossy's it was then taken over by Evos and Scooby's.
They were uninsurable to some and got so cheap that you could pick them up really cheap. I had 3 at one time but they were a liability and made way for more practical cars. The favourite and alternative legal way to drive one was to get insurance on another car, with the policy enabling you to drive "any other car" Insurers soon done away with that and even not allowing traders policy any cover.
It'd be interesting to know the final numbers made to the numbers stolen.
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I remember getting a quote in 89 on a new 2wd Sapphire. I'm sure it was around £450 for me fully comp. I was a bit committed getting a house etc so didn't do it at that time. Checked again as the 4x4 Sapphires were coming to an end and it was around £3k with lots of conditions. I think there was only one insurer taking on new Cosworth business that I could find!
I'm sure it was Flux or someone like that who would only insure them with trackers, Vecta immobiliser, Rottweiler on the back seat plus what then became a cat 1 alarm. I even know of someone near Slough who re shelled there original whale tail into a ceramic blue 1.6 3 door shell
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I had rs turbos in the early 90s and put them on my mates traders you could buy them for pennies,got my first saff cos in 96 and insured it through privilage at just under 1k with 2 bans on my licence and my mrs who was 22 as named driver 
was big money at the time but the cars where so cheap.A lot of my mates had the cossies ect on traders policys at the time but most excluded them from cover in the end iirc
was big money at the time but the cars where so cheap.A lot of my mates had the cossies ect on traders policys at the time but most excluded them from cover in the end iirc
2 tales of cossie ownership from me then
bought an e plate moonstone (i think) 3 door in 93 for £8k, spent loads of money on it, was stopped every single time i went towards ealing in it, "that's a nice car, sonny, deal in drugs do you? " or "do you know why we've stopped you sir? your car is too loud" or "we believe that this car has not been insured properly due to the fact you've got vents pressed into your bonnet" or "you were not wearing your seatbelt when you got out of the car in your garden sir so here's a £30 fine" or "something is wrong with your brakes sir as the rear wheels aren't spinning when i've attempted to turn them, here's a form, get it recovered and don't drive it again" etc etc
then some scrotes tried to pinch it from my front garden, anyone who's been to my house knows there is a slight slope on my road so when they couldn't get into it by pulling the indicator and couldn't get into it by forcing the door lock and then broke the window and then couldn't get it started after breaking the barrel and cowling and then told my dad, "we're stealing your car" when he shouting at them out the window "oi! what are you doing?!" and then they bumped it down the road before giving up
plod turned up 45 minutes later saying they were after a gang of armed crims who they had suspected had been the guys trying to steal it
and then, one day shortly afterwards, smoke started to escape from the wires and the dash started to get coughy
i opened the bonnet to see that there was a leak from the turbo and then the whole thing went up in smoke, apparently one of the injectors had gone open circuit and not shut down so it filled the entire no1 chamber with fuel
scrapped the car a month or so later and i don't even have any pictures of it
found some pics of my white 92 saph (which i wrote off into the armco in 97) a few weeks ago but they ain't brilliant, my mate bought a white 92 gt shortly afterwards and was stunned at how much faster it went and how much better stopping power it had
used to pay £62 a month for the 3 door, 3rd party fire and theft only though, saph i can't remember but i had an "issue" with admiral who said that there was an issue with the insurance and that i needed to pay them an extra £472 to cover the cost of insuring it as "they'd quoted on my dad being the main driver and not me because why else would i have taken out a policy and done all the hard work if i wasn't going to be the main user of the vehicle" it took 17 letters from them to agree that they'd fucked up when the ombudsman explained that my dad didn't speak very fluent english which is why my policy was for me with him as a named driver
i also had a "mate" who said that, for £1500, he'd get me a full cossie, with the keys and everything"
i politely declined his offer and then later found out, through the local drug kingpin, that my car was "protected" because "everyone knew who he was, and he knew who i was, therefore everyone knew that my car was out of bounds for anyone to mess with"
lots and lots of tales of cossie ownership, most of which probably STILL aren't legally allowed to be written about on the internet
needless to say that i maxed the 3 door out at an indicated 148 and the saph at an indicated 142 and then my estate at an indicated off the 170mph speedo although i can't remember how fast it was clocked through the speed trap at alconbury, think it was 154 mph at the 1 mile marker
bought an e plate moonstone (i think) 3 door in 93 for £8k, spent loads of money on it, was stopped every single time i went towards ealing in it, "that's a nice car, sonny, deal in drugs do you? " or "do you know why we've stopped you sir? your car is too loud" or "we believe that this car has not been insured properly due to the fact you've got vents pressed into your bonnet" or "you were not wearing your seatbelt when you got out of the car in your garden sir so here's a £30 fine" or "something is wrong with your brakes sir as the rear wheels aren't spinning when i've attempted to turn them, here's a form, get it recovered and don't drive it again" etc etc
then some scrotes tried to pinch it from my front garden, anyone who's been to my house knows there is a slight slope on my road so when they couldn't get into it by pulling the indicator and couldn't get into it by forcing the door lock and then broke the window and then couldn't get it started after breaking the barrel and cowling and then told my dad, "we're stealing your car" when he shouting at them out the window "oi! what are you doing?!" and then they bumped it down the road before giving up
plod turned up 45 minutes later saying they were after a gang of armed crims who they had suspected had been the guys trying to steal it
and then, one day shortly afterwards, smoke started to escape from the wires and the dash started to get coughy
i opened the bonnet to see that there was a leak from the turbo and then the whole thing went up in smoke, apparently one of the injectors had gone open circuit and not shut down so it filled the entire no1 chamber with fuel
scrapped the car a month or so later and i don't even have any pictures of it
found some pics of my white 92 saph (which i wrote off into the armco in 97) a few weeks ago but they ain't brilliant, my mate bought a white 92 gt shortly afterwards and was stunned at how much faster it went and how much better stopping power it had
used to pay £62 a month for the 3 door, 3rd party fire and theft only though, saph i can't remember but i had an "issue" with admiral who said that there was an issue with the insurance and that i needed to pay them an extra £472 to cover the cost of insuring it as "they'd quoted on my dad being the main driver and not me because why else would i have taken out a policy and done all the hard work if i wasn't going to be the main user of the vehicle" it took 17 letters from them to agree that they'd fucked up when the ombudsman explained that my dad didn't speak very fluent english which is why my policy was for me with him as a named driver
i also had a "mate" who said that, for £1500, he'd get me a full cossie, with the keys and everything"
i politely declined his offer and then later found out, through the local drug kingpin, that my car was "protected" because "everyone knew who he was, and he knew who i was, therefore everyone knew that my car was out of bounds for anyone to mess with"
lots and lots of tales of cossie ownership, most of which probably STILL aren't legally allowed to be written about on the internet
needless to say that i maxed the 3 door out at an indicated 148 and the saph at an indicated 142 and then my estate at an indicated off the 170mph speedo although i can't remember how fast it was clocked through the speed trap at alconbury, think it was 154 mph at the 1 mile marker
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I'm just trying to think back now I'm sure it was Flux or someone like that who would only insure them with trackers, Vecta immobiliser, Rottweiler on the back seat plus what then became a cat 1 alarm. I even know of someone near Slough who re shelled there original whale tail into a ceramic blue 1.6 3 door shell
I'm sure it was Flux or someone like that who would only insure them with trackers, Vecta immobiliser, Rottweiler on the back seat plus what then became a cat 1 alarm. I even know of someone near Slough who re shelled there original whale tail into a ceramic blue 1.6 3 door shell Yeah trying to insurer these vehicles in the earlier 1990's was a challenge to say the least! I think if memory serves me correct in 1991 we were about the only Broker who would offer a quotation.
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The 3 door was 93 for about 2 years or so
Then the saph was another 2 years or so
The estate came in december 97 and went unofficially out of commision in 04
I aslo had my twinkly for 6 of those years from roughly 00 to 06
my granada from 05 to 06
then the mondeo from 06 onwards till now
And the fiesta from 09
Those yeats all those cars were daily drivers
I think about it now and a full tank in the sierra estate coukd have lasted as little as 60 miles went to alconbury for their top speed day and topped up before we got there and the same place on the way out and if you include the 4 miles worth of travel from the pump to the airfield i used 22 litres of fuel in 22 miles
Fuck doing that now
Then the saph was another 2 years or so
The estate came in december 97 and went unofficially out of commision in 04
I aslo had my twinkly for 6 of those years from roughly 00 to 06
my granada from 05 to 06
then the mondeo from 06 onwards till now
And the fiesta from 09
Those yeats all those cars were daily drivers
I think about it now and a full tank in the sierra estate coukd have lasted as little as 60 miles
went to alconbury for their top speed day and topped up before we got there and the same place on the way out and if you include the 4 miles worth of travel from the pump to the airfield i used 22 litres of fuel in 22 miles Fuck doing that now
just look at stu and his beemer, top whack at least stage 3 cossie power and huge torque yet does 55 mpg and 13 second 1/4's and is ultra reliable to boot
back in the day when i started driving i could fill my tank for £25 so no one worried about booting it about or fuel consumption or economy which is why you had loads of folks turning up the boost and running rich as an easy yet affordable way to go faster for a few weeks
just look at the power figures from any mid 90's tuning company oop north and they were all claiming 5-600 brake
back in the day when i started driving i could fill my tank for £25 so no one worried about booting it about or fuel consumption or economy which is why you had loads of folks turning up the boost and running rich as an easy yet affordable way to go faster for a few weeks
just look at the power figures from any mid 90's tuning company oop north and they were all claiming 5-600 brake
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