Remember that black italian sapph?



I was interested in what box it used so ages ago I tracked down the owner, heard absolutely nothing from him until today when he messaged me to ask if I wanted to buy it for the measly sum of 70,000 euro's...

edit:- it runs 1189 bhp 1300ft-lb of torque according to him!

Ginge

 

Sounds lumpy to me Ginge

 

It will scran Rodneys saff lol.

 

I expected it to look faster than that

Steve

 

I have NEVER seen a car - ANY car - accelerate like that Saff....

 

Italians are full of shit have to deal with them for parts for old lancias and they all tell lies........

I doubt if any YB can have that torque without it exploding. even the probe never had that much.

 

Go for it and buy it

 

Even the Norwegian lads cant get that kind of power let alone torque.

 

It goes like fook. Love the vid of it against the funny car amd when he gives it a head start.

 

as we all know it's not really fast unless it'll do it at brunters

 

Seriously fast car but no way can it be that torque! iv seen a link somewhere,it says its done 9.0 secs at 160mph, so it must have big power but not what's claimed!

 

My bad it's actually 1084bhp/1013 ft lb @9.700rpm with turbo pressure 2.7bar using 110 octane racing fuel . NO GAS , NO NOS , NO METHANOL .

Engine spec

Tree 8 counterweights
Connecting Rods H reversed
ARP rod bolts
10 long studs
Forged pistons CPS
Camshafts competition
Head worked with racing valves standard size
Titanium plates
Double valve springs
mechanical tappets
Processing intake and exhaust ducts
Turbine Precision Turbo PT
Precision Turbo PW46 external wastegate
Stainless steel exhaust manifolds craft T4 flange with 4 thermocouple probes
Suction crafted aluminum box with flute 8 injectors
butterfly plus
Candles competition
4 separate coils , one for each cylinder
Handmade stainless exhaust 80mm
2 fuel pressure regulators 10bar
Braided fuel hoses with quick couplings
Electric water pump
Oversized oil pump
Bulkhead anti-flapping in the oil sump
Radiator plus
Intercooler front RS500 craft plus
Petrol tank craft 8lt
Double pump gasoline increased
Rigid engine mounts Vibratechnics
3l reservoir oil recovery
Alternator 140amp 3.2kg McLaren Racing
All silicone sleeves
All the pulleys in aluminum and titanium
Cover distribution in carbon

It's translated from Italian so...yeah..Love to know what competition candles are...

Ginge

 

prob spark plugs?

 

do you know what 1/4 mile times it does?

 

Best time confirmed (at least 2 times as regulation) on 8.9sec 400m exit speed 260kmh in 1.4sec 60 ft .
Best Time not confirmed on 400m 8.76sec

Ginge

 

On the link I read it said best so far 9.0 seconds with the aim being high 8.

 

Ginge thik it has a oppliger box in it

 

This is what he gave me for transmission info..

5-speed sequential gearbox + reverse
Clutch twin-plate copper Xylem
Steel flywheel lightened Xylem
Quaife limited-slip front differential
Quaife limited-slip rear differential
Central splitter Bara Motorsport calibrated 70nm
Reinforcement plate front differential housing
Support the rear differential drive
Transmission support disk Vibratechnics


No mention of box maker that's all I ever wanted to know..

Ginge

 

The best car's are only built in Italy.

 

thats a good time

 

160mph pass is mega. 1000hp or not that is the fastest Saph I've ever seen !

 

Power seems correct for the times it runs.

Certainly makes Rod's build look tame!!

 

Impressive stuff, didnt realise it had gone that fast. Someone buy it and bring it to the uk.��

 

160mph terminal speeds says a LOT.
Veyron does about 145mph in the terminal for example.
Rods car was timed at 0-160 in 14sec, this car does it in 9sec. And though Rod has a grip disadvantage, his car seriously moves off the line still- 60 in 4sec, so it's not due to lack of grip.

Basically, ~1000bhp considering the weight of a Saff and the 4wd transmission loss is 100% believable.

Silly to dismiss it just because nobody has done it here, I remember back in the day when everyone used to say it was impossible to make more power than RS500 spec did

 

He states it as weighing 982 kg with fluids...

Some incar footage in this video on facebook..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

Not sure if you can see it or not!

Ginge

 

He will still slag it off and say its shit.

 

So whats the 0 to 60 time 4secs? It must be less than that surely.

 

The 1000hp is definetly believable with the times it's doing and the terminal speed. Wonder what he's replacing it with?

 

Is he getting another car then? ?

 

That in car footage is savage I doubt Rod will slag it off at all.

What an impressive cosworth that is. Sequential box is awesome

 

Thats cos you know I never Slag off people or cars that put it on the line.

That Power is believeable the Torque is not maybe NM not ft-lb.
Its best of breed for what it does in 2014 why compare it with my road car back in 2005 when its 40% heavier & geared to do 217 not 160 & only had 800bhp with gas . Some of you lads were in short pants when mine was setting records this car is current in 2014 the whole whats possible from a YB has moved on bigtime .

I will soon have my own 1000bhp engine but that not for Topspeed runs just show so unless these drag cars from Europe start to run 1.5 miles we may never know what Topspeed is possible from these new generation of engines but certainly over 220mph if anyone is stupid enough to want to do that in a Sierra.

 

Would have doubted this as the general rule when it comes to the real BHP figure with cars abroad seems to be knock around 25%.

But a 161mph terminal is genuinely very fast.

Then again there's another rule for the drag strips abroad, too...

 

This GTR has pretty good acceleration.

 

I know nothing about 1/4 mile times so ive asked a man that does.
Terminal speed is an accurate indication of Power.

Took known data ie my own cars 11.8 @ 127mph at a Daddy Thrash in 2002 told him the weight of the car & he put the info in his calculator it came back 499bhp Wow! thats correct it was Dynoed at 504bhp.

Put the given weight of this car into the calculator & the Terminal of 160 & guess what 740bhp to run that terminal.
Then used 1089bhp & guess what that would have run a 186mph terminal.

There you go facts.

 

Torque is measured then x5250 then divide by rpm this gives you hp. Someone has there sums wrong it will be nm and not ftlb. Divide ftlb by 0.73756214837 to convert to NM

Mark

 

I hope your 'calculator' is a lot more complicated than it sounds, as if it doesn't take in to account transmission losses, being as we're talking about 2wd and 4wd, and so on,then the numbers above don't mean much.
Deffo not 'facts'

 

Given the power and torque claims I would of thought the quaife diffs would of parted company,
Still a quick car though even if the power is "only" 740

Steve

 

youd need alot more power than 740 to run sub 9 second times with that weight anyway

 

Just slag of other peoples pride and joy that don't go for fast times then.

Nice to be selective about it.

 

Wenny runs a 9.5 with 699bhp I think.