Need a new windscreen for the saph. What should I be expecting to pay fitted/not fitted and where from. On the south coast (Portsmouth). Cheers for any help.

 

If its insured - Ł50 excess and thats fitted

 

Not if you've got a Ł75 excess.....

 

Sorry to jump in but I want a heated screen for the p100. Can you still get them?

 

Not insured. About to undergo a resto so in the garage. Was insured with "classic" policy with Ł400 excess to keep payments to a low. Just want to know usual prices or to leave it until insured and make a claim? As above also heated.

 

http://www.heatedwindscreen.com/acat...ndscreens.html

a p100 screen is the same as a saph if im correct? its at the bottom of the page, and if your not insured to fit the screen expect quotes from autoglass of Ł400-500 fitted not supplied as thats what i got, i ended up doing mine myself and could not believe how easy it really is, buy a screen fitting kit off ebay Ł20 has everything in it with instructions took me 30 mins tops to do and a complete doddle, be sure to keep your old screen rubber as new ones arent easy to get hold of now

 

What did you bond it in with?

 

Cheers. How much should I expect to pay for the screen itself? I have a cossie breakers not to far away but he's not online today.

 

well i payed around Ł300 for my heated screen, the prices are on that site, if you find one somewhere else i honestly couldnt say how much you should pay for it, roughly 3 years ago i used to be able to have normal non heated front screen supplied and fitted for Ł150 however i couldnt find a single place able to do that for me a few weeks back, i bonded it in with the adhesive that came in the kit i bought off ebay for fitting a screen, i cant remember what its called but the kits on ebay really are good and clear on instructions for how to do it

 

I paid Ł150 for a heated screen supplied and fitted

 

Not a sierra, but i paid Ł90 fitted for a windscreen at the end of my resto, no insurance etc. I thought that was a bargin.

 

Where from?

 

Please don't sell your car. I'd hate for someone else's safety to be compromised because you went the DIY route on the screen.

 

have you ever taken 5 minutes to look at whats involved in fitting one? im guessing you have only ever payed for one to be fitted?

 

Yeah, I know a little about it

 

Early ford screens a pretty straight forward tbh. I would'nt say they where bonded as such. Well not like a lot of modern cars are. A saph still uses the rubber and pops out, you dont need to use a glass cutting tool thing on a cord or chain if you see want i mean.

 

So much fail in this post it's unbelievable

 

Probably, i know what i mean though.

 

Which is?

 

Want im trying to say is you can take the rubber off and just with a wire go round the prerimeter and then pop the screen out. You dont have to make a mess with one of the cutting tool things. Im no pro, but i would attempt it.

 

So you mean it is bonded in? That's what the wire is for - to cut through the bond? Or do you mean pop the screen out because it's not glued in?

 

A place called "the windscreen company"

 

Yes it bonded, but go have a look on your is200. Tell me, which one would you rather attempt? The one on the sierra that you only have to remove one rubber giving you plenty of access or the is200 with numours rubbers and the screen bonded to a lot more of the car.


Thanks pal.

 

But you said before it wasn't bonded? How many rubbers does the IS200 have, and what do you mean "bonded to a lot more of the car"?

 

Keyboard worrier! I said " as such " - " not like modern cars " Go have a look for yourself. I'm done here.

 

I'm just asking mate! You're not being very clear! First you said it's not bonded (as such - I don't know what you mean by "as such" - it's either bonded or it's not?!) and also that the screen in my Lexus is bonded to "more of the car" than the screen in a Saff/Sierra - again I don't understand what you mean - is the Sierra screen not bonded all the way round or something?

I can only see one rubber on my car - you said it has more, so I asked how many it has. No need to get arsey about it

 

from a one man band i would expect to pay around Ł250 ish s+f for a sierra heated screen. maybe a little more as stuffs more expensive down south.

 

Ok, let's clear a few things up shall we?

Yes, I've taken more than 5 mins to look at what's involved fitting a windscreen, and no, I've never paid anyone to fit one.

Sierra windscreens are bonded. And they are bonded exactly like modern cars. No difference. And as with all bonded windscreens, you do need a cutting tool to remove them. It doesn't have to be powered, but you need to cut them out. Beit with a wire, or a knife.

The fact you aren't a pro, I suggest you don't attempt it. And no, you don't pop the screen out of a Sierra. You pop the screen out of a mk3/4 Escort, but not a Sierra (because Sierra's are direct glazed, and mk3/4 Escorts are indirect glazed)

I've fitted both IS200 and Sierra screens, among the other 12-15,000 windscreens I've fitted over the past ten years. So yeah, I know exactly what's involved, and is why I'm qualified to say you are talking absolute shite. The IS doesn't have numerous rubbers (the actual term is trim - rubber is the term you apply to indirect glazed screens, such as the mk3/4 Escort, that is held in with a rubber), and the Sierra doesn't have just one - it actually has two; inner and outer. Here's a top tip for anyone restoring their Sierra - the inner trim is actually the same as the inner trim from a mk3 transit, so if you need one, go rob it from an old Transit). Both the IS and the Sierra need the outside trim removing, along with the scuttle and wipers, and you should remove the inner trim on the Sierra too, so as to avoid cutting it with a wire or knife. Add to that the scuttle on a Sierra is rubbish, and the clips the screws fit into nearly always break, I'd actually much rather do the IS. Also, you say the Sierra has much more access once you've removed the trim - also wrong. There is more space between the glass and aperture on an IS than a Sierra.

In terms of fitting, you have to be much more accurate with a Sierra screen than you do an IS - this is because of it having two trims; the "space" for the glue is greatly reduced. You want to maximise the contact area on both the metal aperture as well as the glass screen, and this is hampered by having both an inner and outer trim. So many Sierra's I go to, that have been done before, have too much glue, and it splurges onto the trims, meaning they tear coming out. Or they have too little glue, as the fitter is conscious of the double trim, but that reduces the glue to surface contact. Not good.

Then there's your statement about the screen in the IS (and I'm assuming you're also generalising about all modern cars here too) being bonded to more of the car than a Sierra - absolute absurdness and utter garbage. All windscreens are bonded the entire way round. The bonding process for a Sierra is exactly the same as that for an IS200, or Audi, or BMW, or Bentley, or Porsche, or Ferrari, or Nissan Micra.

So next time you wanna get arsey with someone on the internet, and call them a "keyboard warrior", why not actually check your facts, rather than spout off complete and utter shite about something you clearly know nothing about, but still put across as fact.

 

Did i say, im no pro? Yes indeed i did. I still know which one i would prefer to change. Trim, seals. At least ive learnt something

 

Oh, I sorry. I thought you said you're done here?

Oh yeah! You did!

You also said, as if it were fact, that Sierra screens aren't bonded the same "as such" (yet never offered an explanation as to what "as such" actually means) as modern cars, that you don't need to cut them out, they only have one trim, an IS200 has more than one trim, and inferred (by saying "tell me which you'd rather attempt") that you'd rather do a Sierra than an IS200.

All of which are wrong, and not fact. So please don't try to put across facts when you're just guessing. Other people read these threads too, and since not everyone is the sharpest tool in the box, there's a chance some might read this and set about doing windscreens by themselves "because they read on the internet it's easy". And when it comes to safety, of both the occupants and people outside the car (pedestrians and other motorists), that can be a big problem.

 

If i get a new windscreen can you put it in for me?

 

Can I? Yes. Will I? No

 

I think he might put it somewhere pmsl


Steve

 

Thrush is an irritating cunt sometimes hey........

 

 

do you use harris s breakers yard at nutbourne if you do take alan s number from the board just inside the gate and give him a ring. sound fella for windsceen work. will even cut a screen out at the yard and fit it to your car

 

When I changed the screen on my sierra race car I binned the inner rubber trim, and just bonded it straight to the bodyshell.
Thrush I presume thats ok in a non trimmed race car?

It's done a season and a half of racing since with no issues

Steve

 

Cheers for all the input guys

 

It's a race car - you could bond it in with contact cement if you wanted (although I still wouldn't advise it!), as I presume you're also caged up? Plenty of race cars don't even bond the windscreens in - they just seat and tab them, so as to make them quick and easy to change when they get damaged (for example, rally cars need quick turn arounds - who wants to wait an hour for the glue to dry before being able to get back out on the stage?)

As for the trims - they are purely there for aesthetics. The outer trim does provide a little bit of protection for the glue, by shielding it, but it's not water tight - hence why screens delam and apertures rust (and in a way, trims contribute to rusting apertures, by trapping water and retaining it). You could take both trims off a Sierra and it wouldn't make the slightest difference, other than looks. Exactly the same as my Lexus - I could fit the screen without the trim and while it'd look shit, it would make bugger all difference to the screen or fitment.