Is there an inbetween ?

 

What about Borg Warner ones??

 

Isnt there a different size though of them all, like GT3071, GT3076 etc??

 

Yes.......

 

I have no idea on the numbers etc of the Borg ones, need someone to point me in the right direction.

I admit, i have been alittle vague lol.

My T4 is pretty much maxed out. Im changing a few other bits so thought i may aswell throw the turbo into the mix too.
Changing turbo to improve spool and to remove some of the stress, but if that gains me some horseys and torques then i shall not complain. Somewhere around the 550 figure sounds like a nice place to be, but from what i was aware, thats kind of putting any of the GT30s near their limits ???

 

I'm no expert but I think a GT3076 will do about that, but wait and see what other people say, I'm sure a T4 can pull 550 mind.

 

Ive just compared the compressor maps of the GT3076 and GTX3076 and it seems the GTX version may suit. Looks like it would flow another 70 odd HP over the GT version

 

3076 doesn't do 550 so any other variation of the 30 range won't either, although mine produces 519Ib/ft so punchy enough for my needs - not sure what a GT35 is like, Rich Sonic Boom has produced good power out of his GTX3076 , think both figures are the other side of 560

 

I see, wasn't really sure.

 

gt3076 dose do 560, as ajc,s monte ran that

 

Yes mate mine makes 590 bhp and 578 ft/lb of torque on my GTX3076R with a 0.82 housing but i've just changed to a 1.06 housing and going for a cam change so should easily be in the 600's once it's had a map tweak.
Rich

 

id go for twin scroll borg warner efr 7064

 

on the right engine and mapped right a GT3076 does do 550

 

Most are still stuck in the GT/GTX era some of us know a different world though dont we.

 

I want to run a 7670 next but it's rather an expensive setup with the manifold and two wastegates as well.
Rich

 

Another helpful post!

 

I'm running an internal gated 7670 and it should make 540-550 according to Mark, but I am restricted as I still have a 2wd manifold not a tubular, i'm told they are a 600hp turbo on the right set up though, and not a lot of lag. I'll be able to say more next week as its at the MAD camp waiting for mapping.

 

If your into up to date tuning and how to get the best out of your car when going for high power levels then the truth is always helpfull!!!!!

 

The thing with all these Borg warners is from the results they look to be the way forward but nobody has proved the reliability yet. Plenty of road cossies now have them fitted but no race cars or drag cars. When they have been proven on a race car to last il be fitting one.

 

There pretty reliable on Daf trucks at just over 2 bar of boost running some times 8 hrs a day 7 days a week

 

Most are stuck in the GT/GTX world as we have other responsibilities like fuck off mortgages and children, you've probably been there once apon a time you old fart you really do suffer from little man syndrome

 

Brammer, exactly, most people like myself are on a limited budget, house etc in an ideal world we would all walk in to a tuners with a blank cheque.

 

They do them with internal gate, and even on external you don't need two wastegates you can do it with one.

 

You don't need two gates. They come in internal gates also. I have used internal 1 and 2 gates so I have used the lot.

Mark

 

I have one on a time attack car which won the last round also got one on a saph that drags it.
Many other ones used and they are by far the best turbo I have used. I also have a 9180 on a evo and in running in its pulling 1 bar at 4k and I must say its bloody awesome to a 900hp turbo.

Mark

 

A GT3076R with a 0.82 back end will do 550bhp on the right spec engine, I've mapped a couple now and seen those sort of numbers safely.

If a BW EFR unit isn't viable for your wallet, then rather than going for a GTX, i'd strongly recommend a GT3076HTA. It should achieve 600bhp without too much hassle.

 

Work out how much you have spent. Gtx turbo external gate link pipe mapping. Now exhaust housing which is most likely just going to add lag. Labour and mapping and dyno time I think you will find you have spent more than a efr and manifold.

Mark

 

Mark, I stand corrected! 

Could u give us a quick estimate how how much it would cost to fit Borg warner?

 

you mean tuners know a different world, you just agree! zzzzzzzzzzz

 

No as the last time I helped I was given an infraction

Mark

 

Ah fair enough il ask u over on escort forum then! 

 

Just pm him

 

Thats what i thought

 

Sorry I must have missed the bit where he offered useful info, perhaps you'd notice too if you took your head out of his arse.

 

Missed it try reading between the lines as it says there's better more modern turbos to use! After all he has used them all!
And take my head out his arse lol ok I will if you stop being a bitter man over every thing he posts

 

The turbo cost me £1000 from one of your customers Liam as I paided you if you remember (was awhile ago) the manifold I had from the old terrible T66 days which cost me £400 from A1 Rally I've had the Turbosmart external wastegate from the states years ago when the it was 2 dollars to the pound so cost me £157 bearing in mind the manifold and wastegate were bought in about 2008/2009 the mapping which was done at quite a discounted rate through Danny was £200.
So comes to grand total of £1757 spead over a 4 or 5 year period, doesn't come close the £4000 it would cost me in one go for the EFR setup.
Now i'm not knocking it because I would have the EFR in a heart beat of I could afford it.
Rich

 

Where has 4 k for efr come from as its much cheaper than that.

Mark

 

That's the pm you send me mate when I asked before for a price for a manifold, turbo and wastegate/s it might have been £3800 to be completly honest.
Rich

 

LOL

 

Prices can always change 2 years ago it would have been that but today there are diff manifolds and internal gates so 25% less than that. But can't say Anymore as I will get a infraction so won't comment again.

Mark