I have a 53 plate mondeo zetec s but I don't know if its a facelift, reason I ask is I want a Haynes manual but I'm right on the cross over point.
I've read you can tell by the bumpers but no visual guide is shown.

Any ideas please chaps.

 

Facelift



Not a facelift



Note the different front bumpers!

 

Isn't the zetec-s bumper different from both of those shown?

 

Yeah its the same as the st one

 

Ain't the rear lights different on a facelift?

 

Mine looks nothing like either of those

Is there a way to tell from the interior?

 

The Zetec S one is quite different to the ST one.

Yes. Do you have this interior...



Which is pre-facelift...

Or this dash...



Which, you may have deduced via the power of elimination, is facelift.

 

Bottom one. Nice one thank you

 

sorry Dan I know you know your shit but its the same bumper with different grills, I know this from when I had to buy one for mine and got one from a broken st220

 

Totally different mate, been there done that got the tshirt, even wrote the fucking manual

To fit the st bumper you need the following st specific items
Fog lights
Fog light surrounds
Fog light loom
Out air temperature switch
Bumper under tray
Wings
Wheel arch liners
Side skirts
You may also need the headlight washer jet covers but these are not st specific as they are the same across the range
You can also use your under engine cover as, again, these are the same across the board
You will also need all the vehicle spcific nuts bolts clips and screws to hold it all together as they use more than the standard fixings

But you can bolt the bumper on to the standard wings and it looks like you've out the wrong bumper on as nothing else fits to it, even the arch liners are deeper and there is nothing to fix them to the bumper with as there is no plastic where there needs to be as its about 2 inches out

The grilles on the other hand, be it the one at the top where the key goes into or the lower one that sits in the bumper, these can be interchangeable depending on which Mondeo you have, and don't forget, the later titanium models also can with st kit on the front, just not badged as st's as they didn't have the same rear bumpers

There are other subtle differences but in sure you will not be satisfied that its not as straight forward as you may think and unless your motor was a later titanium version, what you have said in the above post is a little misleading

 

The bumper itself fits, as said I've done it myself using a bumper off an st and the parts off my old bumper, the only difference as you say was the washer jets

 

It will fit, but it's not the same bumper - As Dojj has said, there are a number of differences

 

I'll stand corrected then
I was just assuming as I had no trouble swapping mine but as they say you live and learn

 

there is quite a bit to change

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GENUIN...item5d3b792d6f

see, fits titanium x

 

So a titanium x has the same wings as an st?

 

For some reason dojj I never had that issue with mine mate

 

only the facelifted ones from about 06 onwards with the side skirts

the ttx was the sporty version while the ghia x was the old mans version

 

why would it have fitted my zetec s tdci, any ideas?

 

It should not have fitted, the lower part of the inner arch liners sit 2 inches further back as well as 2 inches further up that the st bumper and the fog lights are totally different, so much so that they won't even plug in to anything other than the st fog lights and the under tray is st specific as its much deeper and a totally different shape to the standard versions

And you are adamant that it was the st bumper and not a zetec-s that you were told was an st bumper?

It's almost like saying a saph bumper will fit directly to a 3 door

They will "fit" but its a lot of fucking about and it doesn't look right

 

Its possible that I was sold a zetec s bumper originally, I did see the car it came from but it was pretty much a skeleton by then

 

Nice brakes - what are they?

 

Is there a thread on the above pictured car dojj?

 

no mate, but i', thinking i should do one if i can find all the pics of the things i've done to it over the years if there is an interest?

 

I'm interested dojjanory, always good to see something a bit different!

 

It would be good to see more pics of it and hear about what you've done to it, im interested in most things mondeo tbh, something different as said!

 

Would love too see a thread on your mondeo dojj

 

Very possibly. ST ones are worth more than ZS ones, so the seller probably wanted to 'maximise' his profit potential!

 

My 54 plate 2.2D Titanium X came with full ST styling from the factory.