Looking at a weekend hog and looking at one of the above as similar price and insurance. Heart says cossie head says EVO! What's your thoughts guys?

 

HEAD...........

 

never owned either but I would go cossie,but i've always wanted one

 

Weekend toy would be cossie

 

Never driven an Evo


Never driven an Evo, but cossie wins..

BLINKERED Aaron..

 

Tbh it's a tough call really, rwd cossie = awesome fun etc, i'd say reliability has to go to the Evo, tough call....

 

Cossie

 

Evo4's had a lot of problems with munching through their thrust bearings (aka "crankwalk") IIRC.

Undoubtably the better car in terms of handing, but personally I think at that end of the budget scale I would sooner buy a rwd saph, more fun and I bet it will hold its value better going forward from here.


So I am going to surprise myself, by saying "SAPH!"


Unless you want to be doing trackdays, in which case evo.

 

Drive both and then decide I think.

Both have good and bad points, so just depends which pushes your buttons most!

 

insurance is a big difference on cossies and evos, my evo 5 cost me Ł300 more than my escos

but the evo is an all round package of a car has all the luxurys, drives nice, good power, handling and braking

only downside if they go wrong they go wrong

servicing on engine and rear diff is vital

evo 4s as chip has mentioned has crank walk so id go for a 5 upwards if you can that way you get the wide arches etc aswell, 5s have the better interior that doesnt wear aswell

but mine has been reliable since september used everyday and abused everyday and it had a mis hap yesterday where the common heater matrix started leaking, which is a dash out job which just took me 5 hours to take it out lol

 

Why not an Evo V mate... much better!!

 

Yeah if it was a V it would be a different decision potentially.
With the IV the cossie wins not just on character (I still prefer a rwd saph for fun than an evo) but also on reliability!

 

Saph cos anyday, it wont lose money if you look after it. That shape Evo is fugly anyway

 

Old saff for me.I hate the look of the evo 4s.


Go and test drive a evo and a saff and make your own mind up.

If the cossie has been looked after it will be reliable.

 

if you were local id take you out in the evo to make your mind up, best decesion i ever made, but ill always still have a cossie lol

 

Are we talking standard spec Cossie against standard spec Evo?

 

I assumed a "typical exmaple" of each.

So remap and exhaust on both, and probably some uprated suspension on the cossie.

 

power wise, on evo, exhaust, filter, decat and remap will see 350ish

cossie you need injetcors, breather, intercooler, exhauts, filter, map sensor, etec etc

 

Driven both, and I'd say I prefer the sierra, don't get me wrong the evo is a better handling car but I just love the way sierras drive when your pushing them hard, so much more character as well but if I was buying one for the sole purpose of ragging it on track it would be the evo any day !

 

Evo 4 is

It makes a sierra look good looking!

 

Evo 3, 5 or 6

 

RWD saff, plenty of nice tuned looked after cars around for sensible cash, won't lose a penny & they are great fun to drive. Evos are great cars, undoubtedly "better" than the Ford, but IMHO the RWD saff is much, much more fun to drive...

 

Bang on 4's are horrid looking things!

 

If you buy the EVO you'll never think about a Saff again

If you buy the Saff then sell and buy an EVO, you'll want another Saff

Cosworths are adictive

 

What sort of cossie would you get for evo 4 money? My guess would be poor? As 4's are for not?

5/6 or a cossie?

 

evo then i know the saff has gone just sitting there !

 

im looking at 4-4.5k

Im a Ford man at heart and have since a little one wanted a Cosworth. ive driven an Evo 4 and it was fast and felt tight but i do fear it is rather "characterless" as are most cars when put to a cossie just because of the history the cars have.

Plus the fact that an evo in one form or another is a bit common place!

Reliability wise i never understand why people have this disillusion in my opinion that a YB is a poor engine. For years my dad and uncle ran Escort / 3Dr cosworth rally cars. Over the years they encountered very few problems. a well built cossie engine pushing 350 brake is just as reliable as anything else in my opinion!

Not too interested in a tracking the car as i rally so track days always a little tame.

Should i buy an Evo i feel ill getting the all too common "what shall i get next" within a few month!

 

Evo 4 looks horrible so I'd take the saph an has chip says will hold value better.

Evo v take a nice one and don't bother looking at a saph

Thats what I would do if it was me.

 

Fuck the jap shit,get the cosworth

 

ive owned evo 3 and a 7 my pal has owned two 4s and im on my 3rd cossie sold the 7 to go back to the blue oval. cossie will hold its money cosworths all the way

 

tbh that price range your looking at a shit 5 and a shit cossie

 

if it was to be an evo id go for evo 3 cheaper basic 4x4 nice and light and great handling wee car down side is crank walk and it looks like a proton persona with a bodykit

 

Im not looking at 5's hence the title and theres a nice white saff on here at 4.5k....Thanks!

 

For your budget i would say a evo VI, A decent saph would be demanding more in the Ł6k region. Ive just bought a VI as it was the aggresive stance i liked. Evo 4 or a saph, The saph.

https://passionford.com/forum/genera...y-new-toy.html

 

In that case deffo a Saph!!

 

the 4s 5 and 6 use the same shell, only difference is bodykit on 5 and 6s and obviously better on each evolution with little upgrades

go for a saf at that money but take your time for one and check it over carefully

 

the Evo 5/6 look awesome! but looking at insurance theres a 1500 quid difference between a 4/cosworth and a 6!

No doubt at that money there may be some dogs about

 

What about an impreza 4.5k would get you a nice one?

 

again its the insurance, about 1k more than the cossie! cant justify/afford it on a toy.

 

the 5s and 6s do look good, though the 5s lookmore aggressive

i wouldnt own a scoobie personally due to engine design

have you looked at skylines? gtst rwd reliable and fun