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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 04:40 PM
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I will be running 300mm wilwood 4 pots up front and 2wd cossie calipers and discs on the back of my series 2, will I need to use an after market compensator valve?
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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i beleive so. ive heard the improved discs on the rear can lock up under heavy braking.
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leave the drums on
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by studabear
leave the drums on
Its gonna be running just over 300hp with the occasional track day, although I know the standard drums are not too bad
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by studabear
leave the drums on
Fuck it let's put drums on the front too

I've got a bias valve wouldn't say its essential but does mean you can play with settings to see what works best!! Well worth what it costs I've got a compbrake one
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Originally Posted by Beach
Fuck it let's put drums on the front too

I've got a bias valve wouldn't say its essential
Ask the people who smashed there cars up with rear discs and no bias valves if they think there essential or not.

And what is the point of fitting them only to dumb them down so they don't work aswell.
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Originally Posted by studabear
leave the drums on
+1 rear discs not needed imo
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 11:29 AM
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As said before chaps gonna be over 300hp!
Will try and do some research on what the big power boys are running
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best remove the old bias value from the rear brake first. When i did mine i replaced all the lines and fitted two master cylinders.

drum brakes are shit
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
best remove the old bias value from the rear brake first. When i did mine i replaced all the lines and fitted two master cylinders.

drum brakes are shit
Did you use copper lines or braided and run them into the vehicle to the compensator?
Got any pics pal?
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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drums look rubbish too
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Originally Posted by Russ Payne
As said before chaps gonna be over 300hp!
Will try and do some research on what the big power boys are running
irrelivent. fact is with big powerfull stoppers up front your going to get more weight transfer to the front so the back end will go lighter under heavy braking which will mean the drums will find it easier to lock up never mind fitting discs!
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by phil_focus
irrelivent. fact is with big powerfull stoppers up front your going to get more weight transfer to the front so the back end will go lighter under heavy braking which will mean the drums will find it easier to lock up never mind fitting discs!
That's true, so a bias valve is needed either way
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If it's stripped out like mine you'll need bias valve just for the drum brakes! My cossie discs lock all the time and it's fooking dangerous even thou i got bias valve shut right down and grooved pads . If it's performance your after you'll just need 1.3 bonus drums. Back won't lock as easy so you can stamp on the pedal
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Originally Posted by 16vzetec
If it's stripped out like mine you'll need bias valve just for the drum brakes! My cossie discs lock all the time and it's fooking dangerous even thou i got bias valve shut right down and grooved pads . If it's performance your after you'll just need 1.3 bonus drums. Back won't lock as easy so you can stamp on the pedal
are you still using the old pipes
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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How is everyone running there brake lines inside for the bias valve?
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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mine run inside but mine is a track car

if the brakes are done properly then they are not a problem imo

can only say on my experience and i can stamp on the pedal hard
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Originally Posted by gus
mine run inside but mine is a track car

if the brakes are done properly then they are not a problem imo

can only say on my experience and i can stamp on the pedal hard
Mine is track aswell gus, you have any pictures of how you have done yours?
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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i have a bias peddle box fitted now

no real pics as such as have changed peddle boxes
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re make all the brake lines get rid of all the shity valves etc , run 1 line to the front and 1 line to the rear and put a bias valve in it and turn the rears rite down or the back will be coming round on u , some times even with drums the back comes round if its a light car
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mine is still using the std valves as well as my bias valve and its still too much coz the back wheels can lift off ground when breaking hard coz its stripped out.
i got rst master cylinder, split both lines into two, joined one pipe from each together and through a (under bonnet) bias valve then into the std valves then out to the back brakes, so ive effectively got one joined system instead of the std split diagnal fl + rr and fr + rl braking system
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by stuart collins
re make all the brake lines get rid of all the shity valves etc , run 1 line to the front and 1 line to the rear and put a bias valve in it and turn the rears rite down or the back will be coming round on u , some times even with drums the back comes round if its a light car
Cheers stuart, is it worth putting the valve inside the car, or put it in the engine bay turn it down and leave it?
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Russ Payne
Cheers stuart, is it worth putting the valve inside the car, or put it in the engine bay turn it down and leave it?

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I've just redone all mine like Stuart has said to do it. Mines not a track car and my brakes feel alot better
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by stuartrsturbo
I've just redone all mine like Stuart has said to do it. Mines not a track car and my brakes feel alot better
How did you run them through the bulk head to the inside and back out?
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Apparently mots can be an issue with a single rear brake line I was told. Don't know exactly what reason
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