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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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Just a quick one, ive gotta take my car nms on saturday, the car is insured but is currently sorned and no mot, nms said there sorting the mot but its not being done on saturday, am i ok to drive or will i end up getting my car took off me like you see on these police prgrams?! My mate can trailer it there, but would prefer to drive it if possible. Cheers
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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Yes - your car can be taken off you and you will get points, plus a fine and possibly the car can be crushed.

Don't risk it, get it trailered.
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Dont want it crushed! Best get it trailered then, i just thought it was alright to drive if it was going for a mot or does it have to be booked in the same day?
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Driving to and from a place of MOT test without an MOT is legal. However it is subject to fair use (ie: not an MOT place 50 mile away) and you MUST have valid Road Tax.

If it's SORN'd then it won't have Road Tax and you can't go legally onto the road until you have Road Tax.

Trailer it.
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Sounds like i best do! Cheers for getting back mate
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If NMS will confirm the MOT if challenged then it's O.K.

It's insured, it won't be taken of you.
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You can drive it to and from the place of repair, although there is no set distance on this so its a bit of a grey area, but i would say anymore than 5miles and your pushing it. unless these is some special circumstance (specialist ect)

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ah right sound, ill ring them and see what they say. i can deal with a little fine, just dont want it took away lol. Im in nottingham so its not too far to nms anyway
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Driving to and from a place of MOT test without an MOT is legal. However it is subject to fair use (ie: not an MOT place 50 mile away) and you MUST have valid Road Tax.

If it's SORN'd then it won't have Road Tax and you can't go legally onto the road until you have Road Tax.

Trailer it.
total bollocks, theres is no limit on distance to an mot centre.

how can you tax a vehicle without an mot? , you cant.

both mot and tax are covered if you are traveling to pre booked mot test
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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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total bollocks, theres is no limit on distance to an mot centre.

how can you tax a vehicle without an mot? , you cant.

both mot and tax are covered if you are traveling to pre booked mot test

+1 agreed
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Thats why i thought it was alright, as not everyone has easy access to a trailer do they!
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Shouldn't be a problem if nms will back you up if you do get stopped. As long as valid insurance then will be ok.
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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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If norris say they have it booked in if you were to get stopped then you are perfectly fine in driving there and back. I know this as Ive done it. Bought cars and got my garage to stick it in the Mot book = Covered As said No limit on distance either. Some people say you have to take the most direct route also but I dont know how true it is. You have insurance so your fine
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Originally Posted by fluxysaph
+1 agreed
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Originally Posted by fluxysaph
+1 agreed
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Don't need to have tax or MOT if driving to a prebooked MOT appointment.
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it should be pointed out that you should check your insurance, not all policies will cover you to drive an non taxed or mot vehicle.

most will state roadworthy, which is fine as long as there are no major defects
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Originally Posted by BigChuck
it should be pointed out that you should check your insurance, not all policies will cover you to drive an non taxed or mot vehicle.

most will state roadworthy, which is fine as long as there are no major defects
thats the thing
you only need insurance to drive to mot

you cant know your car isnt roadworthy until it goes through the mot
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Driving to and from a place of MOT test without an MOT is legal. However it is subject to fair use (ie: not an MOT place 50 mile away) and you MUST have valid Road Tax.

If it's SORN'd then it won't have Road Tax and you can't go legally onto the road until you have Road Tax.

Trailer it.
Doesn't have to be taxed as you can't tax a car without an MOT
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Jesus fucking christ - pf at its best as usual.

No valid VED disk ON DISPLAY, can't drive on road (unless you're on trade plates) FULL STOP.
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Jesus fucking christ - pf at its best as usual.

No valid VED disk ON DISPLAY, can't drive on road (unless you're on trade plates) FULL STOP.

thats bollocks
the ONLY time you can LEGALLY drive a car without mot + tax is to the MOT
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Some great threads on this site
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ive been stopped before on the way to the garage with no tax or mot and they checked the booking and sent me on my way no probs.
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Jesus fucking christ - pf at its best as usual.

No valid VED disk ON DISPLAY, can't drive on road (unless you're on trade plates) FULL STOP.
Your def wrong on this one mate as I got pulled taking mine to MOT with no tax or mot but did have insurance and a pre booked MOT the garage had listed on their files and this was totally legal, just like others have already said
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Jesus fucking christ - pf at its best as usual.

No valid VED disk ON DISPLAY, can't drive on road (unless you're on trade plates) FULL STOP.
dude its people like you make these threads worthwhile
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Jesus fucking christ - pf at its best as usual.

No valid VED disk ON DISPLAY, can't drive on road (unless you're on trade plates) FULL STOP.
Yes not fully correct. It's the journey to the booked MOT and direct return home that can be done. But be warned if the car has any dout as to it being road worthy the police have discression over charges.
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The problem with this situation is there is a MASSIVE grey area and is open to too much interpretation,
example, you can take your car for a mot and it could fail on a major defect then if you drive it home and the police or vosa see that it definatly has a major defect then you could get done for using it in a dangerous condition. However the law says you can drive "to and from the place of repair" no mention of condition once checked, as in minor defects can be driven away and major defects need to be repaired on site or trailed or even how many miles away your allowed to travel ect ect ect

In the real world it would depend on circumstance and the person you deal with.
If you get a jobs worth and your going long distance in a death trap and tell him you getting it repaired dont be surprised if you end up in trouble.
But if its pre booked and down the road i doubt you would have any trouble.
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Originally Posted by RS 5tu
example, you can take your car for a mot and it could fail on a major defect then if you drive it home and the police or vosa see that it definatly has a major defect then you could get done for using it in a dangerous condition
Agreed but you won't get done for no tax
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save yourself the hassle and get it trailered there!
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Jesus fucking christ - pf at its best as usual.

No valid VED disk ON DISPLAY, can't drive on road (unless you're on trade plates) FULL STOP.
Driving an untaxed vehicle to an MOT test
You can drive your vehicle to and from a pre-arranged test at an MOT test station as long as you have adequate insurance cover.
This also applies to vehicles being driven to and from a pre-arranged test at:
a Vehicle Inspection Check (VIC) test station
an approved weight testing station and reduced pollution test station

Taken from here

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...icle/DG_069671


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if your bothered borrow some traders plates, i don't know of anyone who has been pulled with them on.

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Bloody hell thought it was gonna be a simple yes or no lol. Ill drive it and get my mates trade plates aswell just incase then! Its no way un road worthy at all so will be alright, ill let you know if i end up in prison !
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if your bothered borrow some traders plates, i don't know of anyone who has been pulled with them on.

Bad idea as the person they belong to could get fined Ł5000 for letting him use them!
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Originally Posted by SelbyRST
Bloody hell thought it was gonna be a simple yes or no lol. Ill drive it and get my mates trade plates aswell just incase then! Its no way un road worthy at all so will be alright, ill let you know if i end up in prison !
It would apart from fucktards who know nothing spouting shit they've heard down the pub,in work,on t'internet etc.
The cars booked in for a ticket,it's fine to drive.
A mate of mine actually crashed on his way to the Mot centre without t&t and ins company paid out as the car had no major defects without any issues at all.
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Also no points for driving without Mot,only a fine,only extra points in CONJUNCTION with no insurance.
Yet more bollox,like people who say you have to Mot a car before a VIC check and that you can't tax a car without a logbook or if it hasn't been VIC'ed,all bullshit that I've disproved personally on several occasions.
Another classic is you have to re-Mot a car after it's been written off,total shit.
I think I may write a book on automotive bullshit!!
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Borrowing Trade plates (Trade licence) is pointless as well, even if someone was daft enought to lend them.
You still need a an MOT to use them legally, unless you're going to a pre booked MOT and return, which is the same exemption allowed to anyone.
They just cover you for no Tax.

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Originally Posted by Bomber
Jesus fucking christ - pf at its best as usual.

No valid VED disk ON DISPLAY, can't drive on road (unless you're on trade plates) FULL STOP.
How can you get the arse at people being wrong when the only person actually stating incorrect facts in this thread is you?!

i got caught by dvla camera car thingy driving my saph to the garage that was setting it up and mot'ing it, fine came through the door for having no tax, quick letter back to them explaining the situation with a copy of the mot cert and job was jobbed.

also for folks saying borrow some trade plates.........you do realise trade plates only exempt you from having tax on a vehicle?
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Driving to and from a place of MOT test without an MOT is legal. However it is subject to fair use (ie: not an MOT place 50 mile away) and you MUST have valid Road Tax.

If it's SORN'd then it won't have Road Tax and you can't go legally onto the road until you have Road Tax.

Trailer it.
Where is your information from? Unless it's a new rule there is no distance limit. I asked VOSA to clarify this at the end of last year, and they confirmed there is no distance limit.
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Bomber, That is horseshit.

I took my car to VOSA for its SVA test with no tax, no test, no registration plates. Didn't even a registration number to put on a poster in the window.

When I left the test-centre the cops joined the road at the roundabout and were in front of me for a good part of the journey and they didn't bat an eyelid. Guess they are used to seeing all sorts of vehicles going in and out of there.
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Originally Posted by Bomber
Driving to and from a place of MOT test without an MOT is legal. However it is subject to fair use (ie: not an MOT place 50 mile away) and you MUST have valid Road Tax.
WRONG!

Dont need road tax to drive to an MOT, after all how can you tax a car that isnt MOT'd thats been off the road for ages?

And there is NO limit on the distance you can travel to an MOT either.

You can live in scotland and legally drive your untaxed and un-MOT'd car to a MOT station and back from a prebooked MOT.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Where is your information from? Unless it's a new rule there is no distance limit. I asked VOSA to clarify this at the end of last year, and they confirmed there is no distance limit.
I spoke to the DVLA about it for something I was writing for total vauxhall mag and they confirmed to me in writing that there is NO distance limit and also no restriction on the type of roads used, ie you can go on motorways etc too if you wish.
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