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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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Hi all would just like ask going on sunday to get the st what should i look out for and is there anything to look for when buying her.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Hi all would just like ask going on sunday to get the st what should i look out for and is there anything to look for when buying her.
Thanx Mik.
first thing to look for is get the bonnet up and get them to rev the engine if you hear a ticking sound when reving walk away a good sign of head gaskit failing
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Thanx for that going sunday to have a look ill post some pic's if i get her.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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My only advice is get a well specced 2 litre zetec! About the same speed, drinks less fuel, much more tuneable, more reliable, and when things do go wrong, you literally trip over these engines in the breakers.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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rust on the arches + underneath, scrathes on windows where the strip in side door rubber has corroded and scratches window evertime it goes up and down (nothing serious just a way of knocking off a few Ł), and check that ALL the doors lock and unlock together with central locking,
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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hi this is what the bloke said about the car is it an easy fix.


passenger rear door doesnt always lock with the central locking i push it in from the inside and it causes no problem and locks.
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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bout Ł80 maybe more for rear lock from ford,have to change whole mechanism, very very fiddly job but is possible to do yourself with help of a haynes manual etc, i did it twice on my old car, hence what i wrote on my previous post about central locking,
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Check the under carpet in boot and wheel well for water, as rear lights can leak. If it an earier ST24 97/98 car may have black plastic water pump impellor which can break up, ask if changed to metal impellor.
When test driving you should between 3-4k revs should feel it pickup, this is hopefully secondaries opening, if not the IRMC box could be fried. Also the secondaries like a clean/decoke every so often as they get quite dirty.
As said check all the central locking on doors works, motors can pack up, about Ł80 from Ford, but about Ł10-Ł15 from a scrappy.
Suspension springs can snap, not always obvious, mine wasn't luckily stayed within strut.

May sound alot, but even later ones like mine are 10+ years old now so had a few problems over the years, but great cars.
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Originally Posted by covlad1987
first thing to look for is get the bonnet up and get them to rev the engine if you hear a ticking sound when reving walk away a good sign of head gaskit failing
Love to hear this, the infamous V6 'tick'. they tick when the EMG goes aswel, but everyone has heard about the 'tick', and assume its the head gasket, and runs a mile
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Originally Posted by Mikst
hi this is what the bloke said about the car is it an easy fix.


passenger rear door doesnt always lock with the central locking i push it in from the inside and it causes no problem and locks.
You could try WD40 on it to clean all the muck out, but this may just prolong the inevitable failure, good news if it is a rear door, I found the my rear door lock mechanism easy to replace, but the front drivers door was a bit fiddly, as less room.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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Check the under carpet in boot and wheel well for water, as rear lights can leak. If it an earier ST24 97/98 car may have black plastic water pump impellor which can break up, ask if changed to metal impellor.
When test driving you should between 3-4k revs should feel it pickup, this is hopefully secondaries opening, if not the IRMC box could be fried. Also the secondaries like a clean/decoke every so often as they get quite dirty.
As said check all the central locking on doors works, motors can pack up, about Ł80 from Ford, but about Ł10-Ł15 from a scrappy.
Suspension springs can snap, not always obvious, mine wasn't luckily stayed within strut.

May sound alot, but even later ones like mine are 10+ years old now so had a few problems over the years, but great cars.
Hi thanx for that its been chiped and running 200bhp good or bad thing.
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Running 200bhp, make sure you see the proof! Mine's running Superchips bluefin and didn't really gain any topend, but transformed the thru rev range drivebility, which I'm happy with as you use it more day to day.
Don't know the spec of car you going to see, but be surprised if chiping it made an extra 30bhp, or Ford would of done it to the ST200.
Even the standard ST200s I've seen rolling roaded struggled to get their magic 200, and they have different manifolds, cams, injectors, throttle body etc over the ST24.
Not saying it can't be done, but it the exception rather than the rule and if Ford struggled to make the ST200 get to 200ps then it says alot.

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Originally Posted by covlad1987
first thing to look for is get the bonnet up and get them to rev the engine if you hear a ticking sound when reving walk away a good sign of head gaskit failing
i had the famous tick changes the manifolds and gaskets tick now gone she pulls like a train
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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Had a state blue S reg a few years back such a great car they drive so nice and pull really well. Great cars!
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Originally Posted by Mikst
Hi thanx for that its been chiped and running 200bhp good or bad thing.
It's a bad thing in that the owner's bullshitting you. There's not a chance it's got anywhere near 200bhp, unless he's put an ST200 engine in - 'chipping' an ST24 will get you very little in the way of an increase, and no where near 30bhp!
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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so did you pick the car up in the end????
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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Yeah got it pull really well in second you can feel it kick in like its got another gear.After crimbo ill be getting some mods nothing to over the top suttle i think.you lot can give me some ideas and web sites.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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is that the one in your garage pics? looks good as is imho, might give it a deeper sound with a stainless exhaust
you pleased with it then?
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Yeah that's the one,yeah i'm pleased you guys helped by telling me wot to look out for which i did as my first ST no tapping or ticking engine quiet some surface rust underneath but not worried needs exhaust and induction kit need to know where to get one from don't like the steering wheel to big,gonna get shot of the old stereo for new.the front drivers tyre looks like its flat but i put 29psi in this mornning but still looks flat any ideas
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Looks like this one thats still on ebay, unless you've put it back up for sale already

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-FORD-...ht_1643wt_1270
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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Look at the bottom of add sold!!
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If you want more power out of it, then your best bet it to fit ST200 stuff that comes up on eBay from time to time - Throttle body, cams, upper and lower inlet manifolds (UIM, LIM). Then fit an air filter (either a shrouded one, or one with a good cold air feed), remove the pre-cats, fit a decent exhaust and then get it mapped to suit the mods. You'll be getting towards 200bhp with all that fitted.

Unfortunately extracting power out of them isn't easy, or cheap, but it is possible.

It's also worth moving the IRMC (the bit that opens up the secondary inlet and gives you that 'kick') from the front of the engine to under the battery tray, otherwise they can get fried!
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Nice looking 'deo.


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Originally Posted by Fiddy
Love to hear this, the infamous V6 'tick'. they tick when the EMG goes aswel, but everyone has heard about the 'tick', and assume its the head gasket, and runs a mile

i take it if ticking under load and when the engine get hot the ticking stops would that be the EMG more to the point whats the emg only asking as ic an st24 lol
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Originally Posted by covlad1987
i take it if ticking under load and when the engine get hot the ticking stops would that be the EMG more to the point whats the emg only asking as ic an st24 lol
The ticking it either the Exhaust Manifold Gasket(s) or the Head Gasket. The Duratec V6 has a weak point in the gasket which causes the gasket to blow, but it blows to atmosphere, so looses no water, nor oil, just ticks!
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