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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Like the ford mag this month doing the feature on non ford engines

Can anyone say how hard they are in say a mk3 escort

The c20xe has been done, but how hard is it to mount and could you use the rwd conversion bell housing to use say a rst box? But what clutch would be needed.

And the other interesting one is the civic type r vtec
I guess you would need a box from something like a eke

And also who would do a manifold to fit carbs to a st170 engine
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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The civic box I meant ek9

And the c20let would be a cool conversion
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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i like the idea of a mazda 13b rotary with a fwd gearbox from a 323
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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That would be good or a pulsar lump fwd
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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Got a vtec lump goin in my escort mark. Just and I mean just goes in the bay with a custom pulley.

Had to move servo to drivers side.
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i have an inlet to fit carbs to the ST170 lump mate



sold the rollers but still have the plenum bit also
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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I want to see a Rolls Royce merlin in a ka, would be a right laugh.
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyobrien
Got a vtec lump goin in my escort mark. Just and I mean just goes in the bay with a custom pulley.

Had to move servo to drivers side.
I should bring mine round yours then lol

Could just run a pedal box instead?
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
i have an inlet to fit carbs to the ST170 lump mate



sold the rollers but still have the plenum bit also
What sort of money would you want for that ? Just the manifold
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyobrien
Got a vtec lump goin in my escort mark. Just and I mean just goes in the bay with a custom pulley.

Had to move servo to drivers side.
Pictures of the install mate sounds like a good idea
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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I have a Vauxhall V6 in my Ka, made mounts and hung them off the standard mounting points (+ a couple more), dropped the engine and vauxhall gearbox in (I had to buy a cable shift linkage box to make it easier to fit), took the vauxhall and ford shafts to a local prop/driveshaft company with the measurements and they made tubular shafts with vauxhall inners and ford outers, wiring was easy as the ecu loom is separate from the car loom
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Originally Posted by zippyobrien
Got a vtec lump goin in my escort mark. Just and I mean just goes in the bay with a custom pulley.

Had to move servo to drivers side.
I've always fancied putting a vtec in a ka, it's not until you look closely at a vtec engine bay you realise the engine is on the wrong side which means a re-locate or replace with a pedal box into a small ford
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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Saab turbo engine would be another cracker!
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Because I'm poor and peddle boxes cost money. So I've got a Mondeo servo and mc, removed the break bar and fitted the hydro clutch set up from the civic. Total cost, Ł10 for the Mondeo crap.

Also you can use the bottom half of the standard st170 manifold to fit carbs, done this to fit bike carbs to a mates Rs 1800
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:53 AM
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Ka would be an Easter installation ( as would mk zetec s, puma) due to have flat sections on inner wings to weld the civic mounts to.

Unlike my mk4 escort were I'm goin to have to box section them out. Tall engine aswell
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Ford do it from the factory

Focus st and Rs mk2 have volvo engines

Fiestas 1.25, 1.4 and 1.6 have yamaha

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Well I'm tempted to keep my escort and go st170 but what would you charge me to mount a c20xe or c20let
I think the vtec might be abit much for me

Originally Posted by zippyobrien
Because I'm poor and peddle boxes cost money. So I've got a Mondeo servo and mc, removed the break bar and fitted the hydro clutch set up from the civic. Total cost, Ł10 for the Mondeo crap.

Also you can use the bottom half of the standard st170 manifold to fit carbs, done this to fit bike carbs to a mates Rs 1800
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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Mark just keep the escort and do the st170 on tb's like you wanted it's not the sort if car to turbo ect
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Yeh but it's 1850 just for the trireme bodies, Ł500 for an engine, and then I need a injection fuel system

So carbs would be best
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I hate the thought or the sight of a non ford engine in a ford.
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn.
I hate the thought or the sight of a non ford engine in a ford.
I love it, love how someone has taken something totally different and "made" it work, with some propper engineering & electrical skills.

Did anyone see the ka with audi S3 quattro engine and running gear at ford fair?
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im after Ł125 for the manifold mate

personally i would go the audi 1.8 turbo route if i ever done a conversion again.

awesome engines
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Ok mate will have a look about at bits to match

The ka at ford fair was cool
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