General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

will new cooler and rad effect idle rate

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 10:31 AM
  #1  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default will new cooler and rad effect idle rate

hi folks since fitting my new 500cooler and alloy rad my cossie has been idling at roughly 1.2 instead of the normal 800ish mark. Will the above mods result in lower temps so the ecu thinks its a really cold start and keeps revs higher or are they not related?cheers luke
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 01:05 PM
  #2  
cossie4i+'s Avatar
cossie4i+
TT T38 Power
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 22,368
Likes: 32
From: Somerset
Default

Your car is knackerd

Hope this helps

Steve
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 01:09 PM
  #3  
Rsmat's Avatar
Rsmat
Professional Waffler
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 27,262
Likes: 585
From: either at work or on way :)
Default

Originally Posted by cossie4i_
Your car is knackerd

Hope this helps

Steve


And it's a real one....
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 02:11 PM
  #4  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

Originally Posted by cossie4i_
Your car is knackerd

Hope this helps

Steve
Cheers mate... Have u had a few to many beers with u lunch today!?
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 02:12 PM
  #5  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

Originally Posted by cossie4i_
Your car is knackerd

Hope this helps

Steve
Cheers mate... Have u had a few to many beers with your lunch today!?
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 02:40 PM
  #6  
cossiegreg1's Avatar
cossiegreg1
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,237
Likes: 1
From: Durham Drives:sapphire cosworth
Default

Sounds like there could be an air leak, after fitting the intercooler to me.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:10 PM
  #7  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

Originally Posted by cossiegreg1
Sounds like there could be an air leak, after fitting the intercooler to me.
What hose would that be do u think?
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:12 PM
  #8  
cossie4i+'s Avatar
cossie4i+
TT T38 Power
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 22,368
Likes: 32
From: Somerset
Default

Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
What hose would that be do u think?
1 of 2 or maybe both

Steve
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:13 PM
  #9  
v man's Avatar
v man
Zee Germans are coming
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 2
From: dunstable beds
Default

Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
What hose would that be do u think?
just check both are on right and tight
there is only 2
both that come off the cooler
1 to turbo
1 to throttle body
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:14 PM
  #10  
v man's Avatar
v man
Zee Germans are coming
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 2
From: dunstable beds
Default

also is the coler second hand or new
if second had check it had no leaks its self
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:25 PM
  #11  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

brand new radtec mate. Would there maybe be a little split in the hose as their original or would it come from where there jubilie clipped on?
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:42 PM
  #12  
James @ M Developments.'s Avatar
James @ M Developments.
BANNED
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,480
Likes: 28
From: Devon/Blackpool
Default

how would air leaks on the intercooler increase idle speed?

the intercooler is before the throttle body, so not under depression.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:44 PM
  #13  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

im no expert mate but i though as the engine would be cooler, the ecu might keep revs up to compensate for temp, doesnt it have different settings for cold starts and adjusts the fuel air etc accordingly??
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:49 PM
  #14  
James @ M Developments.'s Avatar
James @ M Developments.
BANNED
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,480
Likes: 28
From: Devon/Blackpool
Default

You havent suggested that its a boost hose leak mate, but some others have! you can take the boost hoses off a YB and the idle speed will not change!

your thermostat should not open till over 80degs, depending on type, and the car should be out of cold start by that time. thats the whole point of the stat.

i would suggest you have an air leak somewhere, becuae a petrol engine will not rev without air, so i would pressure test the inlet system (behind the throttle body) and investigated for air leaks, before having the fuelling evalutaed and the base idle adjusted to suit.

the intercooler or rad fitment shouldnt have caused the issue.

does the idle drop to its normal speed if you unplug the ISCV?

Last edited by James @ M Developments.; Sep 9, 2011 at 03:56 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 04:02 PM
  #15  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

i havent tried to take the idle controll valve out yet. If i take it out and it idles correctly does that assume the icv is it at fault and how can u pressure test the inlet system. Do u need special tools? Cheers luke
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 04:03 PM
  #16  
James @ M Developments.'s Avatar
James @ M Developments.
BANNED
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,480
Likes: 28
From: Devon/Blackpool
Default

dont take the iscv out, just pull the plug off it, if the idle drops, then the iscv is being told to open by the ecu, there are a few various reasons this can happen.

to blow the inlet up with air we have a special fitting, which im sure you could make up, take it up to 3 bar.

otherwise if all is well, just get the fuelling/boost checked and set up, and reclaibrate the idle speed via the throttle body screw.

Last edited by James @ M Developments.; Sep 9, 2011 at 04:05 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 04:10 PM
  #17  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

ok james cheers. Where's the icv located on a saph cossie? (I.ve never had any issues with idle before so never needed to know) many thanks luke
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 04:14 PM
  #18  
KSA-Cossie's Avatar
KSA-Cossie
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Default

R/h side of engine mate,cylindrical tube with a plug on top.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 04:25 PM
  #19  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

cheers mate. Is it coloured? Right side as in opposite side to turbo
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 04:33 PM
  #20  
James @ M Developments.'s Avatar
James @ M Developments.
BANNED
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,480
Likes: 28
From: Devon/Blackpool
Default

On top the throttle body mate with a grey top and usually a grey plug
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 04:37 PM
  #21  
BigErn's Avatar
BigErn
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,445
Likes: 3
From: Sunderland
Default

Grey thing on top of throttle body fella

Reply
Old Sep 9, 2011 | 04:55 PM
  #22  
lukeytheduke's Avatar
lukeytheduke
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 1
From: Dover, Kent
Default

cheers lads. Nice pic by the way, spotless
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gcfcos
General Car Related Discussion.
59
Oct 6, 2015 05:04 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 11:23 AM.