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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Hello folks, I'm taking the plunge and going mtx75

Im getting a diesel gearbox as I like the ratios, is this ok?

Next, the starter and flywheel set up, what do I use?

And lastly the clutch?

I'm new to this so please help

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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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rs2000 box might be easier
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Hello folks, I'm taking the plunge and going mtx75

Im getting a diesel gearbox as I like the ratios, is this ok?

Next, the starter and flywheel set up, what do I use?

And lastly the clutch?

I'm new to this so please help

Cheers folk
focus rs clutch standard 2.0l flywheel
mondeo mtx box ( there front starter) focus mtx is rear and hits the starter motor.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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just changed the centre on the clutch and used everythin else on mine dont no wat box mine is really long gears about the same finial drive as 3.3 on a bc box , do a bout 160 in 4th
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just changed the centre on the clutch and used everythin else on mine dont no wat box mine is really long gears about the same finial drive as 3.3 on a bc box , do a bout 160 in 4th
sounds like you have a diesel box mate they have a 3.41 fd
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Diesel box will take a focus rs limited slip diff then guys?

I've got a cossie four paddle clutch just don't know what to do about cover and flywheel

So I need a focus cover with a cossie four paddle and a 2.0l flywheel will that work crazycage?

I thought the zetec used bigger flywheel bolts?

Thanks for your help guys its appreciated!
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Ps, the car will be running full boost with this gearbox so in the region of 270lb ft and 300bhp just to bare in mind when talking about clutches
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Sounds like a wise move Jimbo, just dont launch it at pod!
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Jim's too afraid to take his own car up Pod
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Diesel box will take a focus rs limited slip diff then guys?

I've got a cossie four paddle clutch just don't know what to do about cover and flywheel

So I need a focus cover with a cossie four paddle and a 2.0l flywheel will that work crazycage?

I thought the zetec used bigger flywheel bolts?

Thanks for your help guys its appreciated!
yes the focus rs atb will slot in with no probs.

scrap the cossie plate idea mate and just use a full focus rs clutch kit.

the zetec does have bigger bolts 1mm bigger ,you can machine some bushes to sort that or re-tap the crank.
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Not a good idea launching a mtx luke? That was the plan!

You scared?

Crazy- expense mate, I can't justify focus clutches when I have cossie ones coming out my ears, any ideas for me for a cheap conversion with cossie clutch bud?

I think a 1mm bush may be small so might machine out the flywheel 3 mm bigger then bush it down to correct size,

So just a 2.0l zetec flywheel?
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Alan, if the box is ok it will get a few runs at pod
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Not a good idea launching a mtx luke? That was the plan!

You scared?

Crazy- expense mate, I can't justify focus clutches when I have cossie ones coming out my ears, any ideas for me for a cheap conversion with cossie clutch bud?

I think a 1mm bush may be small so might machine out the flywheel 3 mm bigger then bush it down to correct size,

So just a 2.0l zetec flywheel?
they work tho mate ,ive yet to see anyone make a cossie plate do the job of holding big power on a zetec . you might be ok on a cvh.

and yes any 2.0l flywheel
p-s you can pic them up second hand now and then.

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Like I say 270lbft I really want to use what I have here you know, it's literally brand new ap 4paddle!
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Like I say 270lbft I really want to use what I have here you know, it's literally brand new ap 4paddle!
sell it ! thats how i clawed the outlay back when doing my conversion.
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Not a good idea launching a mtx luke? That was the plan!

You scared?

Crazy- expense mate, I can't justify focus clutches when I have cossie ones coming out my ears, any ideas for me for a cheap conversion with cossie clutch bud?

I think a 1mm bush may be small so might machine out the flywheel 3 mm bigger then bush it down to correct size,

So just a 2.0l zetec flywheel?

Not scared just skint

Stripped the box down today - whoops!
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Is this what I want?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Zetec-2-0...3#ht_500wt_922

And does it have the suitable 36-1 ring gear on for my cvh block?
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sell it ! thats how i clawed the outlay back when doing my conversion.
Not a bad idea, ok so STD focus rs one or uprated?

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Not scared just skint

Stripped the box down today - whoops!
Ring you in a sec!
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Not a bad idea, ok so STD focus rs one or uprated?



Ring you in a sec!
yes the flywheel in the link is what you need, and standard or uprated mate .the standard one will take 330ftlb in a focus .
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Ok, I want to do some drag strip stuff so what would you recommend? I obv want it to last as long as poss?

Or do you have a link to the bits I need clutch wise,

Cheers fella been a real help
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Up ski for the crazy cage need a clutch sorting

Will go for the focus rs if I can't use a cossie plate on the zebec flywheel and a certain cover?

Just don't know which focus rs clutch to get if e above isn't possible!
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Up ski for the crazy cage need a clutch sorting

Will go for the focus rs if I can't use a cossie plate on the zebec flywheel and a certain cover?

Just don't know which focus rs clutch to get if e above isn't possible!
Zebec ? You talking Northern again!
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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Link above says 170bhp engine - if it's an ST170 one then it's no good.

You need a flywheel and cluctch from a 2.0 l non ST or Diesel - i.e. anything that used an MTX box. It has the 36-1 pattern in the flywheel.

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Cheers rick will have a look about for flywheel

Might have one at work

What do you think on clutch front? Like I was saying id love to run my cossie four paddle if poss as it saves me a shit load, so would just need to know if it fits and what cover to use

If not then I'll go with the rs clutch just need a link to which one I need!


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Get rid of the 4 paddle. Use a std Focus RS clutch which will last forever and be much nicer to drive.

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Will it take the power and full bore launches?

Also, what about the stage up from standard ap clutch, not the paddle though?
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Only reason I ask is they're similar prices I think!
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Standard Focus RS or upgraded organic will suffice!
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Cheers chaps, looks like I need to get saving for a focus rs ap clutch


Ooh one more does the focus rs ap cover go into the mtx75 bell housing as Christian and beccy couldn't get it too on a cvh?
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Christian was using the RS2k box, and it won't fit in that.

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Ooh, so my diesel van mtx75 should be fine?
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Cheers chaps, looks like I need to get saving for a focus rs ap clutch


Ooh one more does the focus rs ap cover go into the mtx75 bell housing as Christian and beccy couldn't get it too on a cvh?
i wont fit into the crap old rs2000 box but will fit any of the hydraulic mtx gearboxes .

i run the up-rated organic ap in zetec and ric runs the standard rs clutch both with no probs.
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Ahh, mine is cable operated box with rod change?
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Come on lads last hurdle
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Ur diesel box is same box as rs2000 box just different ratio's.
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So the rs turbo clutch isn't going to wor is it
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Focus rs clutch I mean
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You cant fit the AP clutch cover in a early MTX75 Box. (Rod selector type.)
Thats why Im not using AP.
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I run a full focus rs 6 paddle on my rod change mtx I had to gring some of the inside of the bell housing away on my gearbox aswell as using 3 vibration plates welded together to space the box away from the engine I found out the hardway fucking around with cossie clutchs ect they dnnt work!!!!!!

I have an AP focus rs pressure plate forsale Jimbo and a 2.0l fly wheel all you would need to buy is a paddle or spinner

Pm me if you want to no anything else I have some pics of the bell housing ect!

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How has spacing the engine away from the gearbox affected your CPS sensor, Starter motor and clutch throw?

The CPS sensor has some tight tolerances.
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