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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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will have 300 ish for a pc once ive sold my ipaq satnav


mate suggested building a pc if shop round for the good prices can be done easily, spose could get a sec hand sceen

big hard drive needed, min 512 ram, decent dvd rw drive, think il need a good graffix card to watch downloaded films on my tv via a lead?


or am i in the land of the fairy's???
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depends if you want the whole lot or just the base. TBH nowadays places like Dell can sell you a PC just as cheap as you could DIY it for!!!

you could build yourself a PC for about 300quid even with all new components, and it's be more than adequate for anytihng other than new 3d games.

www.ebuyer.co.uk theyre nice n cheap

or www.scan.co.uk theyre cheap too (and often do good bundles for barebones systems)
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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not a gaming man anyway mate to be honest so 3d games not working isnt really a problem


the machine will be in my bedroom basicly to download and watch dvds linked to the tv, and burn the occasional one
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EBAY!!!!!

Hard drives can be got cheaper than usual, sizes from tiny tiny upto 250gb I see on there (looking for a coupld of HDD's myself at the mo)

Got a pukka soundcard off there already (new, but half retail price) and a graffix card (you want summat like a GeForce MX440 if you wanna watch films on ya TV (not good enough for 3d gaming tho) as it has an S-Video output on it...

CD writers, Roms, DVD writers and roms also much cheaper than retail, towers are cheap too.

I paid £60 for my 15" LCD screen (new) so thats proof they can be got cheap!

Keyboard and mouse for a fiver, pair of speakers for another fiver, pretty much sorted - just need software then (again, easily got on ebay, or if you have P2P you can download it off someone )
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could anyone suggest some parts for me to seek??



basicly suggest a pc to me in bits
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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fook me they are cheap arent they

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...163089429&rd=1
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Okay Lee, here's how I broke down a PC (for my needs) to buy parts

(Item / explanation / example)

1 - A case/tower : for everything to fit into ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...741762647&rd=1 )

2 - PSU : Power Supply (see above item - includes PSU)

3 - Motherboard : PC's circuitry ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...741946951&rd=1 )

4 - Processor : or known as "chip" (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW )

5 - RAM : PC's memory ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...742358051&rd=1 )

7 - Grafix card - for video grafix ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...162878275&rd=1 )

8 - Sound card : for sound output and input ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...162935861&rd=1 )

Then you need storage drives;

1 - HDD : hard drive ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW )

2 - CDRW : CD ROM and Rewriter ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...162381558&rd=1 )

3 - DVD-RW : DVD-ROM and ReWriter ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW )

Then Peripherals;

1 - Keyboard and mouse : err, ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...162597652&rd=1 )
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and this too

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...163586049&rd=1


is it worth mr building one? or can i do it cheaper?

or is it just a case of they buy bulk on everything so i could never get the same price?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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hmmn thrush yes mate looks good i love that case looks fantastic


i think though i dont want to buy all bits from ebay as waiting for delivery etc etc would rather just buy it from somewere all in one go


i see your point on ebay though those bits are cheap
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Building PC's is like modding cars Lee - if you spec/build you can have it they way you want it....

Most times it does work out cheaper than just buying a system then adding a few bits to it, or changing a few bits....

I am building one for myself, cos a) I think it will be cheaper and b) I am too skint to buy one

But to replace the main downstairs family PC it was just easier to buy one (bought a new Dell system) as it had pretty much all the requirements needed (had to settle for Intel Celeron instead of P4 tho) and it was a lot less fooking around (as it is family PC I just needed something simple and easy to use with minimal hassle...
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Taht one you posted there seems pretty damn good to me - all you need then is a few leads, an LCD screen, keyboard and a mouse and your away... But by then your over your £300 initial budget......

This will probably go up, but maybe something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...163929216&rd=1

Add a DVD RW (if you need one) and a monitor to it and your away....

To watch your DVD's on the TV tho you will need to get a graffix card like the GeForce MX440 like I posted above
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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that GeForce MX440 is cheap on ebay m8 just looked saw one buy it now 16 quid
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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your getting me hooked m8, i want to build one i think, i love that case, looks soo cheap that too
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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www.cclonline.com is where i get most of my stuff from..
they are CHEAP.
ive just ordered a VERY good spec PC for under £400
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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WHATS THIS ONE??

a amd 64 3200 + , with 512 ddr memory , and a asus mobo , i could also add a 8 speed dvd writer to it for u and its in a nice mercedes case, 15" TFT


been offered it fr swap with my ipaq sat nav gear
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up for the above question
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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Well, from what I heard the AMD 64 is similar to the Intel P4 chip, the 3200 is the processor (3.2 GHz - pretty damn quick, most likely with an 800fsb and 1MB cache), 512 ram (standard, but sufficient) ASUS mobo mean the motherboard is made by a company called ASUS (dunno much about Mobo's so no help there then )

Dunno is 8x DVD wrting is fast or slow for DVD writers TBH, tho it's gotta be better than not having a DVD-R right? And a Mercede's case sounds like the new cases that look like C class Mercs;



I have a 15" TFT, and although I like it if your not trying to save space it's deffo worth going for a 17" (as I prefer the look of 1024 res, and it's easier to read on a 17" than it is on a 15". 15" is better for me tho as I want to save desk space in my room)
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yer i think the writing drive maybe slow but there not that dear are trhey?


and to be honest writing the dvds takes couple mins its the encoding that takes the fookin hrs
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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£40 or so for a half decent DVD-RW drive on flea bay chap....

Just looking at another thread it seems ASUS mobo are the best mobo's out there (alledgedly)
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NEC 3520A or a Pioneer 108 would be your best bet for a DVDRW. Both can be had for around 40-50 quid
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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well hopefully i might be getting that machine above in swap, only thing is were a fair few miles apart so gotta overcome that one first
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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Add me to msn

peterrichardson929@hotmail.com

and ask Thrush about the deal i did him
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And i aint farr from u, about 40 mins, meet 1/2 way on the M3 and where sorted
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i added u
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Wirte as per msn convo (u drive a hard deal LOL)

Right, spec is

2.6 amd athlon
512ddr ram (can go upto 2 gig for the right price)
160 gig hdd (cud go bigger for a bit more cash)
HP cd re writer
Phillips dual layer dvd re writer
Sony 3.5 floppy drive
Pine 64bit graphics card
Seperate TV card
Ebuyer own brand usb card (giving 7 usb ports in total, 2 of the 5 are usb2)
Dell speakers (only small 5watt ones but do the job and look nice) finished in black

Comes with a legit copy of xp pro, and office 2003, also got loadsa other software which u can cpoies of if u want

The case is silver/blue, and all the drives are black, looks nice IMO

and ur choice of either 15 or 17 dell tft's

Prices, 300 with a 15"tft, or 330 with a 17"tft
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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i think id be a daft man not to buy that with the 17" tft at that price
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Pete - did you get my email the other day? I need a three 17"s now
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Yeah got your mail mate, will mail you back when i have some in "stock"
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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pete can the case be changed on that machine easily enough?


think i might by myself a funky one and change it all over later on, and ill prob upgrade the ram too
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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pete That matey is saying his pc is worth more than ures


hes saying his processer is much much better but he says yes his hd is smaller and his tft is 15"

heres his spec
AMD 64 athlon 3200 +
Asus K8V SE deluxe motherboard
512 MEG DDR 400 memory
Radeon 7000 gfx card
Seagate baracuda 80 gig hardrive
Mecedes Case with side window and 2 multi coloured side fans
Sony 8 speed DVD Writer
Windows XP Pro Corp edtion
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I don't know much about AMD chips but it does look like the prcessor in the one you just put up (Apples) is a better one than the one Pete put up.....

But then, it's probably only the difference between Intel Celeron and Intel Pentium (most likely even less of a difference)

I wanted a P4 chip and 2.6-3.2 processor for the new family PC but coulnd't get one for the budget I was on, so settled for a Celeron 2.6... My mate hasa P4 2.6 (both identical PC's, just the chip is different) and whilst his is a little bit faster, the difference don't seem much.... I ain't really had a prob with the Celeron 2.6 in the new PC - this machine I am on at the mo is a HELLA old 667mhz Celeron and this does me fine for web surfin!

Go with Pete's machine Lee - he knows his stuff and is a top lad for sorting you out with deals (plus the bigger HDD and screen)

Swapping it over to a new case shouldn't be too hard - just a case of remebering where the plugs all plug in (inside I mean) and swapping the stuff over bit by bit, then plugging it all back together again...

And there are some cool looking cases out there mate











That last one!
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well hes offerd me another hard drive now to up it and bunged in 50 dvdr's lol

fook me im confused
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Right, buy the system off Pete, and then swapyour sat nav with the bloke with the other system.

Power both of em up, see which you prefer, then flog the ther one.

Simple
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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I personally would never buy any computer parts of e-bay, at least if you use a company you can get refunds / replacements easily enough
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Yeah his is slightly better spec, but my case, psu, ram, hdd, and all the cd drives are brand new and the screens brand new and bigger, also the keyboard/mouse and speakers are all brand new, at the end of the day im sure i'll manage to sell it at that price so if u get offered a better deal u'd be stupid to turn it down
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I say buy Pete's Lee - fooking bargain at that spec, and like he says, it's all new gear

Keep the one from Pete, swap your sat nav for the other guys PC and stick it up on fleabay to make a few quid
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na cause my sat nav would prob make £350 on ebay



pete thankyou so much for your time sorting a pc spec for me as yet im unsure what route to go hope you understand

this chap is being more than helpful and has also offered to upgrade the ram to 1mb now too hence i dot know which way to go
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PC's are not too hard to build and there are several sites with instructions on out there. I built my own in November but it ended up costing more than one from a shop and I get most of it wholesale. The other problem I had was troubleshooting as I hit a few BIOS problems that I had to take into work and look at on the net there as I had no PC at home that worked.

I wouldnt fancy building an LCD monitor though, they are cheap enough to buy
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