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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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I am trying to live map my Cosworth 4x4 redhead and have got a definition file which is IAW048_01.xdf and I have just learnt that the definition file that I have is for a catalytic converter green head, the one I need apparently is IAW048_02.xdf. Does anybody have one or is there a difference between the two files and could I live map using the catalytic converter file. I realize people are reluctant to give these away but I am hardly a threat by way of competition as I am in the middle of Canada and there are probably only 10 Cosworth in the country.Thank you to anybody that can help me
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contact msd with ya spec and they will send u a chip pall. job done and no messing about..
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contact msd with ya spec and they will send u a chip pall. job done and no messing about..
I've got a chip I need a file
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Contact flux capacitor on here, he loves giving away other peoples hard graft apparently

No tuner is likely to send you out a free file IMHO
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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Contact flux capacitor on here, he loves giving away other peoples hard graft apparently

No tuner is likely to send you out a free file IMHO
Nobody said I wanted it for free, I just need help stuck in the middle of Canada where nobody can spell Cosworth let alone drive one!
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As above then, just order a chip with the correct file on it from MSD.
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The software will be different but I assume from what you want you have a standard car?

They are very easy to change, however to live map I think you will need a emulator etc?

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Have you tried opening your bin file with the IAW048_01 definition? If the values all look like junk then you'll know there is a difference.
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 01:52 AM
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Have you tried opening your bin file with the IAW048_01 definition? If the values all look like junk then you'll know there is a difference.
Yes I have and it all looks good but I was just being careful.
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Originally Posted by James90RS
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Could you expand on that please
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by captiva
Yes I have and it all looks good but I was just being careful.
The code is probably the same then and it's just the calibration data that differs.
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Originally Posted by James90RS
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If you are suggesting he takes his car to them, he's from quite a few miles away
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If you can post the stock bin file up somewhere I'll compare it to the bin file I have and see if it's only the calibration data that differs.
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Tbh I doubt there are many who do have the stock software, best bet would be to try and find a standard chip imo, and read that.

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The only real difference between a "red" and a "green" file is location 0FCBFh.
For a red file the loation is 00 (zero), for a green one it's 033h.
In the eprom this is location 3CBFh.
All maps and parameters are in the same place for both types.
There's also some info here: http://bigturbo.co.uk/main3.htm
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Originally Posted by Chip
If you are suggesting he takes his car to them, he's from quite a few miles away
Yeah, 6,291 miles to be fair! And it's still bloody snowing here, can you believe it?
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Tbh I doubt there are many who do have the stock software, best bet would be to try and find a standard chip imo, and read that.

Martin
Thanks. If I understand it correctly the binary file is the one I can get from the EPROM, as it is a Stage 3 and is going to be altered, and the definition file, (.xdf) is the one that shows the location of the maps and works in conjunction with the binary. I have put my standard chip in to the reader but it can't read a 27C64 chip (old technology). However when I put the new blank chip in, which is a 27SF512 it reads it fine and everything seems to be in the right place but as this .xdf file is for a green engine and mine is a red engine am I missing some maps or have I too many! Remember I am still learning just like you guys did when you first started.
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Originally Posted by oldford
The only real difference between a "red" and a "green" file is location 0FCBFh.
For a red file the loation is 00 (zero), for a green one it's 033h.
In the eprom this is location 3CBFh.
All maps and parameters are in the same place for both types.
There's also some info here: http://bigturbo.co.uk/main3.htm
Now this sounds like the info I need, I'm going to look at this, thank you Oldford.
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27C64 chip? That was used on the rear wheel drive L1 and L6 ecu's.
An L8 should have a 27C128 chip.
Check what ecu you have here: http://bigturbo.co.uk/main1.htm
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Could you expand on that please

Try giving them a call, speak to Karl:

http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by oldford
27C64 chip? That was used on the rear wheel drive L1 and L6 ecu's.
An L8 should have a 27C128 chip.
Check what ecu you have here: http://bigturbo.co.uk/main1.htm
I definitely have an L8 but when I asked on here what number chip I had (as ex factory) no one replied so I went to another forum and that was what I was told so I'm sure you are correct.
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Try giving them a call, speak to Karl:

http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/
I have tried contacting them by email and then by phone but with no luck as when there is 7 hrs difference in time it's difficult. I bought the chip from them originally.
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