what would you say are the best all round pads to get for me escos.

ive got ebc yellows on there at the mo which are quite good but only if you get them proper hot. whats the best all rounder. obviously a set of ap's would be best but cant efford them at the mo lol.

 

Ferodo DS2500

 

As Matt said, top pads

 

looks like a set of them soon then!

 

i have a set of ds2500 on my sapp cos
and its the best i ever had

 

You could use cornflake pads like the DS range, as that is what they can look like after hard use, ie they can fall to bits.
I'm very surprised you say you need to get the yellows warm, and can only assume you are a very gentle braker ?, in that case switch to redstuff.
Having used both reds/yellows, and the DS range I can guarantee you the DS range need way more heat to work, have a totally wooden feel, and aren't as good, just ask any plod who drives the response cars, where most are on ebc yellows, as the DS range failed the tests!!
Ask stu@msd about his DS pads, that fell to bits, but not the yellowstuff he switched to.
tabetha

 

Obviously the DS pads fall apart if the are used outside their heat range, but so do all pads LOL. This is why there are different codes for different uses (same as the colour codes for the EBC range).

You wouldn't recommend EBC Black or Green stuff for these applications (as they wouldn't be up to the job), yet seem unable to grasp that people using DS2000 or DS2500 for unsuitable applications causes the same issues .

 

As I stated stu had no problems with the yellows despite using them in exactly the same conditions the DFS were specced for, oh sorry I've already said that.
The feel of the DS range doesn't even remotely come close to that of the EBC ones mentioned, but then neither it seems does the performance!!
I use yellows at -C temps and have no issues with cold performance, as most others don't.
Personally I give stu a lot more credit than that, and think he knew what pad to use in the DS range.
tabetha

 

EBC Yellowstuff by their own admission are a race / track / High-speed street use, so comparing them with DS2500 (which are a fast road / LIGHT track car use) is like comparing an RS Turbo with an XR3i and then being surprised about the performance difference. You need to spec the right pad grade for the right application and when a pad gives a wooden feel, it is usually an idication that it has been overheated or glazed.

An equivalent to the Yellowstuff in the Ferodo range would be the DS3000 pad - have you tried this?

I personally wouldn't want to use DS2500s in an M5 at a circuit, as they just aren't up to the job (but then neither would Greenstuff) .

 

Never used Yellow stuff but the red that were in the old mans m5 on 6pot 355aps were absolutely abysmal