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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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After fitting a new battery tray to a customers escoss He said have a look underneath



The cutting began







These old escoss"s sure are showing there age
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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KIN-HELL.....................sunroof in the floor..

See, it's not just saffs....
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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They made of shit grade steel or just the kit hides/holds a multitude of sins?
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Thats definately one for the scrapyard....i cant work out why people try to bring these dangerous rot boxes back from the dead......just buy a new car.
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Small turbo Paul? only ones ive seen bad like that have been small turbos.

I was shitting meself when i took the bumpers and skirts off mine but it was all mint, keep us updated with more pics as you go along mate
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Surely thats not going to be welded up? Needs weighing in but judging by the ventilation holes i doubt it'll weigh a lot though...
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Small turbo Paul? only ones ive seen bad like that have been small turbos.

I was shitting meself when i took the bumpers and skirts off mine but it was all mint, keep us updated with more pics as you go along mate
Yes mate its a ST , they rot far worse than the BT

I will keep the piccs coming as i go
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Originally Posted by Pete 3dr
KIN-HELL.....................sunroof in the floor..

See, it's not just saffs....
lol..think i should stop driving mine pete!
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Even my 4i is in better shape than that

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how very dare you .ull get linched saying that on this site
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Thats definately one for the scrapyard....i cant work out why people try to bring these dangerous rot boxes back from the dead......just buy a new car.
how very dare you u will get linched of for saying that on this site
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheScrapman
Thats definately one for the scrapyard....i cant work out why people try to bring these dangerous rot boxes back from the dead......just buy a new car.
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Surely thats not going to be welded up? Needs weighing in but judging by the ventilation holes i doubt it'll weigh a lot though...
Why shouldn't it be fixed? If you have the welding skills, there's no reason it can't be repaired if it's done right. If it wasn't for people doing this kind of thing, there'd barely be any classic cars left

Nice to see the Cossie suffers just like the 'mortal' MK5 Escorts
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Originally Posted by AquariousRS
They made of shit grade steel or just the kit hides/holds a multitude of sins?


Shit grade thin guage steel,poorly welded and sealed means most old Fords will have 'floor sunroof syndrome'...
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needs haif floor pans an full sills simples mind you i had a mg-b-v8 that had some big rot till i fixed it im sure the chassi flexed under power
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Why shouldn't it be fixed? If you have the welding skills, there's no reason it can't be repaired if it's done right. If it wasn't for people doing this kind of thing, there'd barely be any classic cars left

Nice to see the Cossie suffers just like the 'mortal' MK5 Escorts
A Sierra or a MK5 Escort is NOT a classic car....an E-type jag is!!
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheScrapman
A Sierra or a MK5 Escort is NOT a classic car....an E-type jag is!!
e types are fukkin awful horrible things lol
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Originally Posted by TheScrapman
A Sierra or a MK5 Escort is NOT a classic car....an E-type jag is!!
Look at this plonkas post count

100% defo a wind up merchant
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As a lot of Escort Cosworths approach 20 years old; there is no doubt that they will become a classic car, just as the original Sierra Cosworth and RS Turbo has. And obviously the MK1/2 Escorts and the cars of that era have too. I'm sure that at the beginning of the 90s, most peope thought the MK1/2 were throw away cars, an awful lot were used as banger racers or just thrown away. I wonder how many of those that did that regret it now after seeing current prices!

But, that isn't the point. I merely said there is nothing wrong with repairing rust on a car if it's done to a good standard, regardless of classic status or not. If people didn't repair rust, the number of E-Types would be vastly reduced, would it not?
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Look at this plonkas post count

100% defo a wind up merchant

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Calling him a Plonka is being polite Paul,
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Look at this plonkas post count

100% defo a wind up merchant

hes either very brave or very stupid me thinks
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TheScrapman
A Sierra or a MK5 Escort is NOT a classic car....an E-type jag is!!
I've read some shit on here but I'm fucking speechless at that one each to their own lol.

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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FordsR4Chavs
Shit grade thin guage steel,poorly welded and sealed means most old Fords will have 'floor sunroof syndrome'...
you have 'my foot your arse syndrome'
any car has rot when they are of simuilare age
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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typical mk5 escort im affraid,my mk5 rs2000 went in the exact same places but its all welded up now
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Looked like an ideal sales opportunity for you Paul.
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You guys may think i'm a wind up merchant and call me names but i have scrapped and crushed much better cars than which is in the OP's pics, some of you would be mortified if you saw what i crushed a couple of weeks ago a 1984 XR4i with just 48000 miles on it, obviously i sold the running gear for kit car use but what is the point of putting these cars back on the road? i had a guy pleading for me to sell the car to him but whats it worth? probably not much more than i broke it up for.
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thought they where made by ford not pg tips
if he is gonna paint it may i sugest creasote with a felt roof
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You guys may think i'm a wind up merchant and call me names but i have scrapped and crushed much better cars than which is in the OP's pics, some of you would be mortified if you saw what i crushed a couple of weeks ago a 1984 XR4i with just 48000 miles on it, obviously i sold the running gear for kit car use but what is the point of putting these cars back on the road? i had a guy pleading for me to sell the car to him but whats it worth? probably not much more than i broke it up for.
Because that's what enthusiasts do you fucking plum To some people, a car's value is about more than just money.

It does make me laugh when people say what rotboxes Fords are. Like other cars from this era were much better
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Originally Posted by TheScrapman
You guys may think i'm a wind up merchant and call me names but i have scrapped and crushed much better cars than which is in the OP's pics, some of you would be mortified if you saw what i crushed a couple of weeks ago a 1984 XR4i with just 48000 miles on it, obviously i sold the running gear for kit car use but what is the point of putting these cars back on the road? i had a guy pleading for me to sell the car to him but whats it worth? probably not much more than i broke it up for.

Yeah,but each to their own fella,that's why this site exists.back in the day (mid nineties) I was breaking rst and cossies because people couldn't insure them and wanted to put the bits in lesser models to insure them.

I scrapped a perfectly good s1 rst,nothing wrong with it,at least 6 or 7 rst s2's I scrapped when now their fetching £2-3k for nothing special.

Personally I like the e type jag but fuck me there's some rubbish out there disguised as a "classic" car,moggie minors,mgb gt,midgets,maxis,allegros the type of shit that should have been scrapped 30 years ago!!!!
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heres the point about old car most diss them and kill em so they become rare and then you think shit should have saved that one my mg was from 1967 had it as a every day car for 6 years class pice of kit got to rusty so i sold it to a pro to keep going point is in its day it was like the mr2 of its time but we can be glad some people seen a classic then and now and keeped em going wot a drive some old kit can be its all noise engine roar and smell and seat of the pants driving new stuff can be too refined and dull
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Because that's what enthusiasts do you fucking plum To some people, a car's value is about more than just money.
Are you kidding?? there's some numpty on this forum who is advertising a MK2 escort for 27.5k so whats that if it isnt all about money 'you plum' i value that car (taking into account all the aluminium parts) at around £250 weigh in.
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Personally I like the e type jag but fuck me there's some rubbish out there disguised as a "classic" car,moggie minors,mgb gt,midgets,maxis,allegros the type of shit that should have been scrapped 30 years ago!!!![/quote]

ok dude how many of these cars have you owned ?
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Originally Posted by TheScrapman
Are you kidding?? there's some numpty on this forum who is advertising a MK2 escort for 27.5k so whats that if it isnt all about money 'you plum' i value that car (taking into account all the aluminium parts) at around £250 weigh in.
yeah.. but thats SCRAP value. as in, if the car is beyond economical repair,
which a 27k car certainly isnt.
if you think 27k for an escort is excessive, best not look at RS500 prices then


by the way you look at it.. even brand new cars are only worth about the £250 weigh in price, then?


PS: an RS200 to you, being kevlar etc, would be worth about £50!?
cos noone would really want the parts if you broke it, so in your eyes, it'd be worthless??
strange how the last one i saw for sale was nearer 100....... thousand lol

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There is something special about restoring a car like that , Because most arse holes would'nt have the skill or the brains to do it.

So Jog on scrap man and find a nice little transit pick up owners forum ,
Your probably only good with a gas axe aint ya?

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I love everyone's response to a 16 year old ford escort! It seems they think its immune to rust as it has 'cosworth' in the name.

if it was a 1.4L it would've been shunned long ago, with valid reason it is argue'd. but they're still the same metal...
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Originally Posted by TheScrapman
Are you kidding?? there's some numpty on this forum who is advertising a MK2 escort for 27.5k so whats that if it isnt all about money 'you plum' i value that car (taking into account all the aluminium parts) at around £250 weigh in.
i seem to have missed something here.....you're here for what reason again???
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