Pet food
Bit of an impromptu survey.
Have a look on the ingredients in the food you give your pet, and see if it says "digest" on there if you get a minute and reply please and mention what the petfood was and if its a cheap or expensive brand.
Have a look on the ingredients in the food you give your pet, and see if it says "digest" on there if you get a minute and reply please and mention what the petfood was and if its a cheap or expensive brand.
Dr John's Gold..
http://www.gilpa.co.uk/product.php?shopprodid=6
Thats what it says online, haven't got the bag to hand as it's in the bin.
http://www.gilpa.co.uk/product.php?shopprodid=6
Thats what it says online, haven't got the bag to hand as it's in the bin.
This is what Bailey gets, he's 7 years old: http://shop.burnspet.com/Products/CAT_01
This is what Murphy gets, he's 5 months old: http://shop.burnspet.com/Products/CAT_15
Cheers,
Grant
This is what Murphy gets, he's 5 months old: http://shop.burnspet.com/Products/CAT_15
Cheers,
Grant
Yup, was recommended to us by the vet because the stuff we used with Bailey first (IIRC James Wellbeloved sp?) didn't agree with him.. he's been spot on with the Burns stuff and is in fantastic shape, so when we got Murph we just continued to use Burns for his puppy food and he'll progress onto the adult stuff when the time comes. 
Cheers,
Grant
Cheers,
Grant
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My 9 month old Rotty pup gets this
http://www.royalcanin.co.uk/my_pet/d...nt_junior.aspx
We get it for Ł42 for a 20kg bag from the breeder.
http://www.royalcanin.co.uk/my_pet/d...nt_junior.aspx
We get it for Ł42 for a 20kg bag from the breeder.
most_99.9% of canned dog food is full of shit-go
complete food ,leave the tins out, but saying that immigrants to the uk in the sixties who didnt read and write( who also introduced us to smallpox)-spike milligan played one till the series got banned after 2 episodes-LOL) bought it by the shed load to EAT-----------this is true and factual.( i wouldnt be suprised if its still sold to this day for the same reason ).
complete food ,leave the tins out, but saying that immigrants to the uk in the sixties who didnt read and write( who also introduced us to smallpox)-spike milligan played one till the series got banned after 2 episodes-LOL) bought it by the shed load to EAT-----------this is true and factual.( i wouldnt be suprised if its still sold to this day for the same reason ).
This is what my cocker spaniel gets. recommended by the vet and breeder.
http://www.pet-supermarket.co.uk/pro...5kg_CA0099.htm
http://www.pet-supermarket.co.uk/pro...5kg_CA0099.htm
She only eats the top 3 on here, the chicken varieties
http://www.encorecatfood.co.uk/flavo...ml#chicken_ham
http://www.encorecatfood.co.uk/flavo...ml#chicken_ham
"Quite simply, most dried pet foods would have a low palatability without the use of flavourings - that is, your pet wouldn't eat them quite as enthusiastically. Digest is a flavouring or palatability enhancer which is often sprayed onto the kibble in small amounts to make the food more appetizing. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it as an ingredient, and as long as the rest of the ingredients together make a complete and nutritious food then it can be thought of as spraying on a little bit of gravy."
Nowt wrong with a bit of gravy
Nowt wrong with a bit of gravy
Last edited by The Rapid 1; Nov 18, 2010 at 11:47 AM.
Current food fo my three changed just recently.
Ingredients
Salmon 30.5%, Potato 30.5%, Herring Meal 21.4%, Salmon Oil 7.6%, Beet Fibre 6.4%, Brewers Yeast 2.1%, Minerals 0.8%, Vitamins 0.7%
Nutritional Analysis
Protein 26%, Oil 12%, Ash 9%, Fibre 2.5%, Vitamin A 15,000 iu/kg, Vitamin D3 1,500 iu/kg, Vitamin E 125 iu/kg, Copper 18 mg/kg
Ingredients
Salmon 30.5%, Potato 30.5%, Herring Meal 21.4%, Salmon Oil 7.6%, Beet Fibre 6.4%, Brewers Yeast 2.1%, Minerals 0.8%, Vitamins 0.7%
Nutritional Analysis
Protein 26%, Oil 12%, Ash 9%, Fibre 2.5%, Vitamin A 15,000 iu/kg, Vitamin D3 1,500 iu/kg, Vitamin E 125 iu/kg, Copper 18 mg/kg
I used to feed my lab on bakers and a few other dry foods and he seemed hyperactive all the time etc and I had a word with the vet and he said bakers was full of e numbers and colours etc and said it wasnt really good for him so had a work with a few lad who go shooying and i know feed him arkwrights complete and he loves it, his coat is the best its ever been and he's really happy with it and much more settled now and very switched on and focused when we go out walking or shooting rather than all over the place like he was before.
http://www.gilpa.co.uk/product.php?shopprodid=22
I get it from my local farm supplier for Ł6 a bag for 15kg. dont get him chicken though as labs suffer with flatulence anyway and the chicken one made him smell rancid lol. i give him the beef one
http://www.gilpa.co.uk/product.php?shopprodid=22
I get it from my local farm supplier for Ł6 a bag for 15kg. dont get him chicken though as labs suffer with flatulence anyway and the chicken one made him smell rancid lol. i give him the beef one
Wainwright's turkey and rice
Turkey Meat Meal (min. 20%), Rice (min. 20%), Whole Grain Barley (min. 8%), Potato Protein, Refined Poultry Oil, Whole Linseed (min. 4%), Sugar Beet Pulp (min. 4%), Low Allergen Poultry Digest as Gravy, Alfalfa, Monosodium Phosphate (min. 0.8%), Natural Seawood (min. 0.5%), Sodium Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Methionine, Molluscs and Crustaceans (as a source of Glucosamine HCI), Chondroitin, Marigold Extract, Yucca Extract, L-Carnitine, Rosemary Extract.
Typical Analysis:
Moisture 8%, Protein 28.5%, Oils and Fats 18%, Fibre 3.5%, Ash 6.5%, Calcium 1.1%, Phosphorus 0.8%, Vitamin A 12000iu/kg, Vitamin D3 1200iu/kg, Vitamin E (a-tocopherol), 600iu/kg, Copper (Cupric Sulphate) 12mg/kg. Contains Tocopherol rich extracts of natural origin. Vitamin E and C as EC permitted antioxidant. No added colourants, flavourings or preservatives. Vitamin declaration is valid until best before date printed With batch number on back of pack.
Turkey Meat Meal (min. 20%), Rice (min. 20%), Whole Grain Barley (min. 8%), Potato Protein, Refined Poultry Oil, Whole Linseed (min. 4%), Sugar Beet Pulp (min. 4%), Low Allergen Poultry Digest as Gravy, Alfalfa, Monosodium Phosphate (min. 0.8%), Natural Seawood (min. 0.5%), Sodium Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Methionine, Molluscs and Crustaceans (as a source of Glucosamine HCI), Chondroitin, Marigold Extract, Yucca Extract, L-Carnitine, Rosemary Extract.
Typical Analysis:
Moisture 8%, Protein 28.5%, Oils and Fats 18%, Fibre 3.5%, Ash 6.5%, Calcium 1.1%, Phosphorus 0.8%, Vitamin A 12000iu/kg, Vitamin D3 1200iu/kg, Vitamin E (a-tocopherol), 600iu/kg, Copper (Cupric Sulphate) 12mg/kg. Contains Tocopherol rich extracts of natural origin. Vitamin E and C as EC permitted antioxidant. No added colourants, flavourings or preservatives. Vitamin declaration is valid until best before date printed With batch number on back of pack.
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my old mongrol had a diet of whatever cheap canned stuff was on offer and usual mixer dried food he lived until 16 years old and was healthy/active all his life until his back legs finally gave out.
this was 20 years ago and all dogs were fed the same
current dog gets fed on james well beloved dried food with some wet tinned just to add some flavour and is very healthy, stupid thing eats anything though apart from broccoli
this was 20 years ago and all dogs were fed the same
current dog gets fed on james well beloved dried food with some wet tinned just to add some flavour and is very healthy, stupid thing eats anything though apart from broccoli
How comes you ask? what have you discovered? please tell as i have a dog and am now concerned.
my lab eats leftovers given the chance or james wellbeloved as its propper dinner with a fork or 2 of winalot just to taste
she was mental on science plan
but shes pretty mental anyway
i chose this pic cos the others i had the missus take had my cock showing, shudnt sit here naked really but you can think on it
she was mental on science plan
but shes pretty mental anyway
i chose this pic cos the others i had the missus take had my cock showing, shudnt sit here naked really but you can think on it

My cairns have mostly Nature's Harvest/Nature Diet/Wainwrights meat or tuna, and Bakers meaty meals/James Wellbeloved to nibble on after. None of them have digest in (never heard of it).
Well, if we turn to AAFCO in the US we find this definition:
'Animal digest - A material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed. If it bears a name descriptive of its kind or flavor, it must correspond thereto.'
What is it used for?
Quite simply, most dried pet foods would have a low palatability without the use of flavourings - that is, your pet wouldn't eat them quite as enthusiastically. Digest is a flavouring or palatability enhancer which is often sprayed onto the kibble in small amounts to make the food more appetizing. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it as an ingredient, and as long as the rest of the ingredients together make a complete and nutritious food then it can be thought of as spraying on a little bit of gravy.
The only arguement, from the standpoint of feeding a natural diet is whether the manufacturing process to create the digest (chemical or enzymatic hydrolysis) can be considered 'natural'... and if a manufacturer is wary of including digest in their ingredient declaration, even though they use it (Burns is a case in point), what does that say about their confidence in answering this question?
so its basically what they put in sausage rolls and spam
'Animal digest - A material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed. If it bears a name descriptive of its kind or flavor, it must correspond thereto.'
What is it used for?
Quite simply, most dried pet foods would have a low palatability without the use of flavourings - that is, your pet wouldn't eat them quite as enthusiastically. Digest is a flavouring or palatability enhancer which is often sprayed onto the kibble in small amounts to make the food more appetizing. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it as an ingredient, and as long as the rest of the ingredients together make a complete and nutritious food then it can be thought of as spraying on a little bit of gravy.
The only arguement, from the standpoint of feeding a natural diet is whether the manufacturing process to create the digest (chemical or enzymatic hydrolysis) can be considered 'natural'... and if a manufacturer is wary of including digest in their ingredient declaration, even though they use it (Burns is a case in point), what does that say about their confidence in answering this question?
so its basically what they put in sausage rolls and spam
Well, if we turn to AAFCO in the US we find this definition:
'Animal digest - A material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed. If it bears a name descriptive of its kind or flavor, it must correspond thereto.'
What is it used for?
Quite simply, most dried pet foods would have a low palatability without the use of flavourings - that is, your pet wouldn't eat them quite as enthusiastically. Digest is a flavouring or palatability enhancer which is often sprayed onto the kibble in small amounts to make the food more appetizing. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it as an ingredient, and as long as the rest of the ingredients together make a complete and nutritious food then it can be thought of as spraying on a little bit of gravy.
The only arguement, from the standpoint of feeding a natural diet is whether the manufacturing process to create the digest (chemical or enzymatic hydrolysis) can be considered 'natural'... and if a manufacturer is wary of including digest in their ingredient declaration, even though they use it (Burns is a case in point), what does that say about their confidence in answering this question?
so its basically what they put in sausage rolls and spam
'Animal digest - A material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed. If it bears a name descriptive of its kind or flavor, it must correspond thereto.'
What is it used for?
Quite simply, most dried pet foods would have a low palatability without the use of flavourings - that is, your pet wouldn't eat them quite as enthusiastically. Digest is a flavouring or palatability enhancer which is often sprayed onto the kibble in small amounts to make the food more appetizing. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it as an ingredient, and as long as the rest of the ingredients together make a complete and nutritious food then it can be thought of as spraying on a little bit of gravy.
The only arguement, from the standpoint of feeding a natural diet is whether the manufacturing process to create the digest (chemical or enzymatic hydrolysis) can be considered 'natural'... and if a manufacturer is wary of including digest in their ingredient declaration, even though they use it (Burns is a case in point), what does that say about their confidence in answering this question?
so its basically what they put in sausage rolls and spam
Was hoping Chip would then reveal what it actually was he had found out about it
Steve
our cats get wiskas tins. not the supermeat tho as they fucking reeeek!
tried science plan, but one of the cat keeps getting cystitis (sp) from it as no moisture, and she doesnt drink much...
i much prefer the dry stuff as they make a lot less mess!
tried science plan, but one of the cat keeps getting cystitis (sp) from it as no moisture, and she doesnt drink much...
i much prefer the dry stuff as they make a lot less mess!
My dogs eat a complete biscuit mix. Comes in a 15kg bag and is 7 odd quid.
My male staff Frank has tuna in sunflower oil with his every now and again and I decided to weigh him earlier and he weigh's in at 25kg. Average weight for a staff is suppose to be between 11 and 17kg.
And at the minute crystal my bitch staff is on biscuits with puppy meat as she's just had a litter of pups.
My male staff Frank has tuna in sunflower oil with his every now and again and I decided to weigh him earlier and he weigh's in at 25kg. Average weight for a staff is suppose to be between 11 and 17kg.
And at the minute crystal my bitch staff is on biscuits with puppy meat as she's just had a litter of pups.
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