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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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I ve been restorin me g reg rs turbo for over a year now and i got it nearly finished and i ve finally got me wheels back from refurbishing, they are super t's 16 inch done in anthracite!!!!!
i got koni shock with un known springs these are to high, just wondered how much to lower it by??????????? but i dont want it stupidly low though!!!!!!!!!

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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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get coilovers then you can play around with them and it will handle so much better. i dropped mine 50mm on chassis dynamic springs and koni shocks, although its fine on flat roads its pig if hit any bumps or drive on alot of crap town roads.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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no lower than 25, max 30 mm imo
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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try 25mm chassis dynamic springs
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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mines 60 mm on 16s and scrubs on the rear when u hit a bump, before it was 40mm on turbo rims and it was fine
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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cheers everyone! coilovers are more hassel cos you have to have the rear end strenthened dont ya?????????
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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not if you use the ones made by MEF

although to be fair it does help
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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WutangRS,
I just brought a set of GAZ coilovers brand new in the box and a front and rear strut braces new in thier box for £350 off a mate!!!!!!!! i think it hould handle a bit better now!
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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i think it hould handle a bit better now!
Lower it by too much and it won't. You will upset both the camber and castor angles for front and rear.

As Adam says 25-30mm shouldn't cause too much stress on the rubber bushes if they are all new.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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NUTS RuS,
I aint goin to go stupid cos i dont want it decked, i can just play around wid the ride hight till it looks good and hadles ok!!!!!!!
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remember what looks good is not always best

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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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i think it hould handle a bit better now!
Lower it by too much and it won't. You will upset both the camber and castor angles for front and rear.

As Adam says 25-30mm shouldn't cause too much stress on the rubber bushes if they are all new.
Got to agree with the above Ive 2 S2's 1 on a 40mm drop the other was in the past a 25mm drop both on Konis, the 40mm drop is to low and limits wheel selection to 16" where as the 25mm drop you can pick and choose 16's 17's and also makes for a better car to drive.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Evening B8 we gonna see you out this year Andy ?
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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Yeah with a little luck Tony, hopefull all going well on the road for the end of March, If the snows away.....lol heres me keeping car under wraps and away from the snow, am sure snow is a dream for you and your car
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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No I hate it too. But we don't get any down here

March that's only next month you know
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Yeah! hey whats a month seems like its been years since ive driven it! Having to result to lift off oversteer in the Pug for my kicks ATM lol

Oh and I still SO NEED to get the rear tie bar set up sorted aswell! If I get half the set up youve got I'll be chuffed to bits
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Its for sale
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Acht No! I loved that car I wish you well with the sale, someone is going to have a lot of fun with it! Still have fond memories of your car on track at National Day last year, I guess its mine and Nige's turn next year...looking forward to it!
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Not the car Andy, just some of the set-up

Motorsport parts get lifed, and are replaced WELL before needed.

It will still be around for a while yet hopefully.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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sorry to jump on but can sum1 shed more light on this strenghaning (sp lol) of the back end if u want coilovers... i wouldnt mind some of them GAZ ones either!
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by G420 DEL
sorry to jump on but can sum1 shed more light on this strenghaning (sp lol) of the back end if u want coilovers... i wouldnt mind some of them GAZ ones either!
Am sure MEF has a kit that does away with the need to strenghten the rear and still utilises coilovers, may be worth a PM.

Uses Billys aswell so your getting a superior setup than GAZ(oh I should be carefull with my opinions) .
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He won't sell the kit (special top mounts designed to take the excess loadings) to mix with GAZ or any other strut as far as I know.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Tony does he sell as a complete kit ie with Coilovers & Top mounts?
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 01:46 AM
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Andy,

Units are available individually but do come as a fully assembled kit so yes
Sometimes the outer top mount (the bit you see in the engine bay) is done as an exchange if we have none in stock.

But being customer focused Im sure if someone said they already had the springs and or or top/bottom spring pans etc then it wouldn't be a problem.

What I know he wont sell is the inner top mount without the strut as the two are designed to work in tandem together, with the way one sits on top of the other, to even out the extra load placings.



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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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Not sure about all this "strengthening of the rear end" business! As far as I am aware, any rear coilover setup would work the same way as mine, putting the coil spring loads through the strut top mounting via the normal rubber isolator.

My setup runs a fairly soft rear spring as the back of the car is fairly light so the increased loadings are not fantastic. Remember that the standard spring that runs between the wishbone and the chassis rail is considerably stronger (maybe 300lbs/in) due to the leverage effect of its position with respect to the wheel and the inner pickup point, so the loading at that point would be relatively large compared to that at the top of a strut mounted spring, which is direct acting on the wheel.

I ran my Mk4 Escort rally car for several years with the identical setup to Tony's RS1600i rally car, with NO additional welding at all to the rear strut top mountings. There was never any sign of stress or cracks appearing. A clamp on rear strut brace would be a good idea though.

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