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i am an aerial and sat fitter and sometimes i have to replace an amp thats wired into a fuse spur in a loft
now i dunno if im sposed to be doin this? on new houses i dont, i show it working on a lead then have them send a site spark to wire in but old houses i kinda spose i have to as they dont have a spark to hand, will prob het a bill higher than my aerial to have it done

anybody know?
i mean know! not makeup

cheers

 

my best mate is a part p sparky and has just rewired my WHOLE house and in doing so has told be everything and i mean everything about what is legal etc

from my understanding an average joe can touch/change existing electrics which includes extra sockets as long as this doesn't excede the ring main output

to answer your question, i think that you can replace a blown amp in an existing fused spur but not to fit a new spur as you'll have to be qualified and that addition requires a part p cert

 

excellent cheers

 

part p does not make you a spark anyone can take it it does not make them an electrician,
as long as you are competent and make sure electrics switched off theres nothing wrong with changing flexes for t.v amp

 

The way I understand it is you can change any part of a fixture location etc BUT you can't add additional items I.E an extra socket or you can but you then have to get it certified by a qualified electrician, your right to check as people will be all for it at the time to save them a sparky but if anything were to go wrong they would be only to quick to point the finger at you!

I two would like to know the certain answer to this.

Martin

 

When I was doing my 2391 inspection and testing there were satellite vans everywhere up the college as my instructor told me they must have the 17th edition as their making alterations to existing circuits.

As this is only considered minor works,the only thing the sat man needs to do is fill in a minor works certificate which is very basic testing of a few resistances etc, although I very much doubt any of them do!!!

A quick tip I learnt on inspection and testing was that very often when you test an upstairs lighting circuit,even though you disconnect all the bulbs you often get about a 13ohm resistance which means that someones tapped into the circuit to power guess what?an aerial booster!!!how many of them get blown when the tester shoves 500volts through em!!!!

 

im no sparky really but i wire up auto doors every day i wired one up today to a live fuse spur and i have never passed any test.

 

wouldnt need a minor works if only replacing t.v amp would you ? not altering the circuit?

 

and?? nothing clever about working live mate and if you were to have an accident wouldn't have leg to stand on

 

i used to do doors too and was told catagorically to never go into a spur, testing was done on lead then left to them to wire in
on domestic we were told to alway plug it in then they can spur if required

but i sometimes do live too my little neon screwy tells me the script

 

Would depend if its a special location ( bathroom, kitchens, outside, anywhere with water ) as if its a special location you need to be Part P covered, If not then you can carry out the work but if asked/needed then you must be able to prove that your compitant ie test cert etc

 

so i need some sort of cert?
i dont have anythign like that

i know live is always green and yella mind so i must be compinunt

 

if needed

 

Your right,sorry didn't read the question properly!!!!I'm thinking about when the circuit hasn't been there before,my bad!!

 

who said it was clever its not but when you need to get the door in and wire the fucker up and no one on site knows were the fuse trip is inside the main fuse board what can you do i just want the job done its not a problem if you know what you are doing but like you say if you get a wack from it you dont have a leg to stand on HSE would send you to fuck.

 

All bollocks what has been said so far really.

You ARE permitted to connect into the spur unit as that is what it is there for. You are however not permitted to alter the incoming cable to the spur or the spur itself, not that you would need to.

Think of it as you are basically plugging something in (obviously it is hard wired before some bell piece jumps on me)

 

Replacing an appliance would be fine without testing or notification. Ultimately it's no different to unplugging the f*cker.

Part P is most concerned with notification / building regs, but also imposes a requirement for ALL work (whether notifiy-able or not) to be tested in accordance with 17th ed and for the person testing to be QUALIFIED (n.b. NOT 'competant') in such testing.

So although adding a spur to an existing circuit is not notifiable, if you're fitting it in the course of your profession, it must be tested and certified.

Chris

 

No you only need one if requested, and i dont mean for you to issue one from ms paint would have to be via someone part P/NIC/ECA etc who just tests/inspects what you have done