2 blokes at work are probably going to get the boot, one for failing to turn up to his disciplinary meetings by claiming he's sick and the other for fiddling his hours.

Now, I've been doing my job and reporting stuff like I'm supposed to (I tell them a few times, they dont listen, I tell my boss, then it becomes official) so why do I feel like a cunt?

I know I shouldn't as if someone else were to pick it up I'd get a bolllcking so when I report it and they tell me "we are already aware of some issues with him" it should make me feel better as I'm not solely responsable for getting them into the potential sacking situation but it doesn't make me feel any better?

Any one else in a similar situation? How do you deal with it?

 

i used to.....but i soon got used to Murder

 

Fuck it mate your job is more important than there's !!

 

Dojj,

if thats your job and you like it then wheres the problem.

i run sites with a good few men on it and if they take the piss etc...then I deal with it, i don't tell the boss though as i normally get through to them.

 

Sounds like there both leg lifters. Let them go somewhere else to piss about. It's not your fault ...

 

at the end of the day look at it from there colleage's point they not pulling there wait so there's colleages won't like it either if they don't wanna work there is enough people that do

 

Only when i have done something wrong Dojj. You havent so stop feeling guilty

 

Fuck it I don't feel guilty having to do that in a business sense, everybody has choice and if the individual is going to make bad decisions and I don't necessarily mean human error or genuine mistakes that have a negative effect on productivity etc then the individual needs to be told. All business has to viable otherwise its not a business, no matter what line it is in.

 

You're going to get lynched by the 'anti-grass' brigade now!

 

i felt guilty once.......but she woke up half way through

on a serious note mate,u shouldnt feel guilty just for doing your job,you go to work to WORK and earn a living so why should people get paid for work they aint doing!.if they wanna get paid for doing fuck all tell them to go on the dole!

 

They put them selves in that situation not you.

But you should be ashamed you grass

 

Guilt is only emotion you have many more use one of them like be happy you're not a twat like them, don't piss about and get to keep your job, it's entirely their own choice, they're not kids, age wise anyway, what would happen if you didn't report things and it got found out ?, bet you'd be in the poo, as they say you can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink, it's their choice you've already tried to help them.
tabetha

 

you fucking grass !!!


nahh but seriousl if its affecting your job youve fuckall to feel guilty about mate , id do exactly the same thing in your position bud


but in answer to your post , do i ever feel guilty ,

the answers no , and its a horrible thing cost me a few good relationships in the past ,


beef

 

not your fault dojj they put you in a sticky situation by not doing there job correctly & fiddling there hours, you spoke to them first if they take the piss then its there own fault not yours .i would of done the same thing & i have done in the past & will do again if the occasion arises your just protecting the company & your own future by getting rid of lazy crap

 

enjoy it, theres people at my place i'd love to sack, not just cos they are dicks
1 runs about like a loon smashing and dropping things and is generally useless
2 did her trail 3 mtsh now has 70% of her time off 'sick'

sadly my boss is a gutless fucker who just moves people to other areas he doesnt worry about rather than binning them off

 

I never feel guilty...And so you should`nt mate imo.

 

I have the most guilty conscience in the WORLD! And I'm a shit liar.

 

yes but i shot and killed in iraq , afghanistan...If i had a conscience i would have topped myself by now tbh.

 

No such thing as guilt as thats just a weakness,give it to them straight dojj -you da man

 

You scare me!

 

+1, but aslong as this isnt another story dojj!

 

Please don't start him

 

i drink horlicks.....

 

That makes ya sound even more of a psycho now!!

Ever watched Silence of the lambs??????

 

yup love it.

 

aslong as its work and not personal then you should nt feel guilty , if they have been warned and not made change then it was there choice

 

I look on it like this, you give them the opportunity to sort themselves out and they took no notice of you.

Do you think they will have felt bad or lost sleep over that? Nope, so dont feel any guilt for them getting the boot.

They brought it on themselves.

 

you work hard, you keep your job - many people work hard in a recesion and lost there jobs

these guys dont work hard and you think they deserve to keep there jobs? only guilt I would have is that they idnt get there p45 sooner!

 

Yeah,but is dojj actually in a supervisory role?or is he just trying to get his colleagues sacked?I mean,would YOU give him any sort of power?I bet they've just taken the piss out of hulk hogan and John cena,dojj the rat!!!!!

 

Dojj you have nothing to feel guilty about. they were in the wrong!

depends how you think about it.

If you look at it from the perspective that your actions ultimately kept you and your mates alive then youve nothing to feel guilty about.

Although with all the lies and shit about the invasion it would not be hard to feel betrayed and feel guilt that way, BUT thats not your guilt to bear but that cunt Blair's.

I went along the lines that as things were not justified in that war because of the betrayal and lies (and also because of self doubt) and as i had a low self worth, I concluded that it was not worth it and hence when i became ill, i made the conclusion that i was evil, and as evil should be destroyed that i had to kill myself - both a logical and illogical assumption! logical in the sense that evil must be destroyed, illogical in the sense that if I was evil then i wouldnt believe evil should be destroyed and hence not want to kill myself and hence my own internal mental arguement was wrong

Not necessarily.

In a psychopathic/sociopathic sense then yes, guilt just gets in the way of doing what you want regardless of any one else.

in a normal sense though, guilt at an appropriate time helps prevent us taking things too far when we do wrong and helps us learn our lesson. Although the boundary of feeling guilt is based on what you have been bought up to believe.

Imagine if Hitler and key figures in the Nazi regime had felt intense guilt after the initial segregation and mistreating of jews prior to world war 2..........

 

case number one:
comes to work and does his job
but cuts too many corners, no mechanical sympathy, averages 2 days off a week since he's been here, he's had 46 so far this year, and every time he's up for a disciplinary, he's off sick, was supposed to go to head office, he's off sick, they were going to come down, he's off sick, they planned to come down, he's off sick, untold private usage of the van, does the drops he wants and then finds an excuse to go home, never signs any paperwork that's come down for him, etc

case number two:
comes to work and does his job
always an hour late, the other day it was 2 hours late, always got an excuse as to why he shouldn't do anything, was the guy who didn't know about ramadan the other day until the day before, another one who breaks the van on a regular basis, another one who won't sign any paperwork, putting down extra hours on his time sheet, in some cases these have been upwards of 2 hours a day, won't go back to drops, alwaya argues when he's been caught point blank, another one for unauthorised mileage, but not to the same extent as number 1, always got a hard luck story if all else fails, and none of these stories match the other stories he tells as he tells different ones to everyone who asks him, etc

the time sheet errors have been there for ages as not only are the vehicles tracked, we've got a temprature trace moniter in all the vans and a print out for the temps so when he puts down that he's started work at 6.45 and yet his van hasn't started until 7.45 and he prints out at the end of the day an hour before the time he puts down, it's fairly easy to catch that in black and white, it's so easy that the warnings get issued to everyone in the department who's got a computer, and there are 120 of us so easier to prove and impossible to cheat

i could go on but you get the point

we had one guy who went up to head office to have a drug test, then said that they were too busy and came back again

or the guy who was caught videoing his drug deals on the company phone

yeah, we get them all

 

The fact that these monkey's haven't been sacked yet proves what a piss poor management system your firm has. Got any jobs going ?

 

Looks like they'll be 2 in the near future

 

sorry Dojj but your a "jobs worth" .................lol...:c ry:

fancy getting these guys the sack

 

binned an agency guy today for fucking up

he was on the phone to me asking if he was needed tomorrow and i said "we won't be needing you again - we are downsizing"

 

its not grassing IF its hes job to do what he has done, i had to deal with a lazy shit at work and i had to make a diary of his fuck ups to get him the boot, he had to go though as he was making my job ALOT harder and also killing staff morale with the others who done the same job but when technically carrying him

fuck em, let them go somewhere else,,,,,, just not at my place pmsl

 

I use to not anymore
you got nowt to feel guilty fella

 

Guilt isn't an emotion, it's a though process you allow to control you.

get over it

 

Well, as an ex-Store Manager, there are always things that at times you dont want to deal with etc. Thing is the clue is your title "Manager".

If you cant manage, and you are not prepared to upset the apple cart at times, then clearly you should not bein that position. Sorry to sound harsh but thats the reality.

Bosses will only then blame you for "lack of management" or "poor performance". At that point, rightly or wrongly, you have to decide whether they have to go, or you go for not dealing with the issues or ignoring them or felling a "grass".

Those people dont pay your mortgage, your cars, your holidays-your company does.You dont have to love ya colleagues just work with them

If they are not delivering then, as much as you might get on with them or have a few beers or they have 10 kids and a mortgage is irrelevant.

 

exactly how it is, not to mention in these times when all companys need to hunt for money rather than wait for it to just turn up having staff that aint focused just means another company on the ball will scoop them up given a chance

fuck me i must me getting old and turning into a company man,,,, wasnt that long ago i was the slacker being carried if im honest