So I've been chatting to a Trader on here, and we've come up with a good deal on the Hart Plenums

Who would be interested, we need 10 people

This plenum cover has been used to great effect on Rod Tarry's huge power Saff, and on Ade's too.

Mine would be going on my new engine, expected to make 480hp 480ft/lb and wouldn't be classed as overkill

Link to the group buy now added: https://passionford.com/forum/trader...t-plenums.html

 

What sort of money are you looking at?

 

What is the price?

 

Ł450 with throttle brackets

 

what is the last date you need to know by?

 

There will be a thread going up in the traders section this evening.

But basically, we'll be needing: Ł50 deposits, once everyones paid the deposit we can put the order in for 10.

Turn around from the order going in, and the parts beign ready will also be good

 

how big an improvement are they over the small turbo inlet james?

 

Who is the trader that they are coming through??

 

What power are they good for?

 

James, i remember Rod had a spaced 500 inlet, they put a hart one on and it jumped a considerable power and torque.

They'll be coming through Danny @ EP

 

pmsl at all the questions - bet you never expected that?

 

BigErn, well what's Rod on now? 800 plus hp?

 

Doesn't bother me Ran i'll send Rod a PM and see if he can put some facts and figures up

 

Cool, I didnt know thats what Rod was running.

 

the power Rod has then you can probably see why it made a difference but will the difference be noticeble on lower spec,powered engines etc....maybe not.

 

pretty sure this was tried on a few different engines and it produced positive results all round

 

Well as said, Mark said it would be worth it on a 480hp Dave!

 

ah..good to know then.

 

I'll find out if it would be beneficial for my spec

 

Basically it will improve any engine 450+
don't forget it's not all about peak figures.
These plenums will improve the running of any engine and also have better distribution across all 4cylinders.

 

i know the guy that used too/ gets these made up i had the booklet that showed some comparisons and improvements on 3 different dyno,s with different spec engines aswell.

not sure if i still have it but the one thing i recall was a big gain in terms of the egt being alot more even on each cylinder .

You could see from the figures how 1 and 4 cylinder suffers with the standard inlet.

I,ve just found the paperwork here,s a quick example they have printed if anyone is interested. 1 engine/guide obviously with results

500 hp engine (no spec) 500 inlet and TB difference
rpm psi cyl temps 1 2 3 4 av.mean temp c 1 2 3 4
4.5k 32 648 665 687 628 657 -9 +8 +30 -29
5k 30 614 630 641 590 619 -4 +11 +22 -29
5.5k 30 634 666 676 619 649 -15 +17 +27 -30
6k 30 620 634 651 604 627 -7 +7 +24 -23


sod writing the hart results down lolpmsl , but the 4 mean ex temp figures for the hart are, 596,651,681,683 respective of rpm. The cyl mean difference is as follows

1 2 3 4
+16 -18 +2 0
+11 -13 +7 -4
+3 -8 +9 -3
+2 -8 +2 +5 You can see cyl 1 and 4 are down the majority of the time , this plenum evens things out very well (easy to see in booklet)

As you can tell i have some spare time + being quite bored haha sorry 4 that but hope it helps a little even though its a bit sketchy on the diagram i made

Mike balls its come out horrid. scan through it, u maybe able to make it out. sorry guys my fault, was only trying to help .
Basically, buy one if your after realible big power with even inlet intake system

 

Im tempted by this, but promised my self I would stop spending money on mine

 

Opposite lock - any chance you could scan the booklet in?

Come on Mike, I know Ade got rid of his swedish style plenum for one of these

 

im up for one

 

Just added info and stuff in the traders parts for sale...


cheers danny

 

I heard that the castings are poor and very heavy requiring some finishing to be done to make them work well.

This was only what I heard somewhere but I don't know if the rough bits are sorted before Danny supplies them ? obviously the weight cannot be sorted.

Just worth knowing the facts before people buy them assuming they are perfect to use out of the box.

 

They are a bit heavier but cant see why that would cause an issue and as for being rough inside well iv only seen a couple with some sharp edges and other than getting rid of them witch took me all of 5 mins iv always left them as is and they work awesome with no trouble..


cheers danny

 

Sorry Danny I was knocking the product, just had heard the rough casting, I appreciate its cast so unless its finished off its not going to be perfect.

Can't knock the price, even a proper Swedish is similar money and I'm told these are far better.

 

i run one of these on mine and made a decent differance on joe's engine dyno over both a standard 4x4 item and my old swedish type inlet,they are a bit heavier but i braced it with a rod with 2 rose joints to the engine mount via a mount lug on the bottom of the hart inlet.decent bits of kit these fellas imo

 

Anyone got a pic of these? if its the ones im thinking of put me down for 1, possibly another 4.

 

not a great picture but mine

 

Great pic here guys



Cheers Focus 4x4

 

got mine direct from joe at bluesprint a while back as i heard nothing but good things about these so its going to be used on my new engine when its built,

rough pics but here is mine when it was being dummy fitted while building the car

 

Youre welcome James. BTW my plenum casting was spot on no problems at all.

 

Hi
Have been asked to comment on the Hart Plenum.

It made 47bhp more Power on the Dyno than my 500 Plenum. Both used a 14mm Spacer & no other mods were done. I use it with a WRC 8 injector manifold & the pair cost Ł850 & has seen over 800bhp .
The casting was rough inside & Mark sent it to his head guy to be sorted.
Cant comment on gains at Lower Power levels but it certainly worked on mine. At Ł450 it seems a no brainer dont think anything else comes close for that money.

 

More bolt on goodies. New intercooler from Spec R just been proven, and now a group buy on hart plenum. Where does it end

 

to be honest it looks well made not only that i saw one of these on Dave's (DP)car about 2yrs ago and asked him what it was like, he said it was very good

for my spec engine dont think it's really needed as i use the small turbo escort with 14mm spacer good enough

i suppose on a engine over 500bhp it's well worth it

marco

 

No probs mate its true rods was a bit rough inside as i know they wouldnt make it up but iv never had any probs and as you can see from mk s pics its nicely finished..
Also no need for a spacer at all unless you want more than 700 hp+

Any one wanting one will have to reply via pm or phone call or on the traders for sale section..


cheers danny

 

It will still give you better gains especially in the midrange torque ..


cheers danny

 

Danny,

I thought using these plenum's lost you midrange torque but gained you top end hp?