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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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Question Cosworth rear brakes with spot caliper and 4 pot calipers ?

Has anyone got any pictures of the brackets needed to run a 4 pot caliper and a spot caliper on a cosworth at all?
I am looking at doing this as I have a fully refurbished set of 4 pots which I can use.
Any pics would be great.

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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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only person i know running this setup is duncoss mate ,

i dropped him a pm on the subject and didnt seem to get any joy ,


i know reyland run a 4 pot setup with the standard next to it , but for me the o.e caliper looks ugly ,


i know cars like the mrec amg's run a 4 pot rear caliper but not sure on the mechanical handbrake setup on them ?


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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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Those spot calipers are useless, we use the original 4x4 rear caliper for handbrake function. As Beefy mentioned they aren't the best looking but they do work!


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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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im sure duncoos siad in a recent thread i posted that they adjusted the cable or the hydraulic bias so the main caliper stopped the car during the mot to aid like a cheekey pass as the spot caliper aint that good , or someone did lol ,

think its more the asthetics folk want , as realistically the standard 4x4 vented setup should be more than up to the job ?


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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
think its more the asthetics folk want , as realistically the standard 4x4 vented setup should be more than up to the job ?


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Not for serious track use they're not.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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well yeah true i suppose ,


but if thats the case and it was a dedicated track car , in theory you wouldnt even mess about with a mechanical handbrake setup would you mart ?
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Sometimes I feel that after some heavy brakings with 3 digit speeds the rear just isn't as it was before, seems to let go a bit and also I 've noticed that rear disks and pads are wearing a bit more rappidlly than the front ones so that tells me that they are overworking... (AP330mm with 4pot calipers on the front by the way). I have found somewhere 4pot calipers with mechanical handbrake mechanism but I don't remember the brand now...
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
Those spot calipers are useless, we use the original 4x4 rear caliper for handbrake function. As Beefy mentioned they aren't the best looking but they do work!

I aint too bothered about the look of it to be honest, what sort of price would I be looking at for some brackets to be made up?
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
but if thats the case and it was a dedicated track car , in theory you wouldnt even mess about with a mechanical handbrake setup would you mart ?
Yes if its a road car too and you want it legal. I'm fitting 4 pots on the rear of my 500 but will be using a diffrent method for handbrake operation.
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
Yes if its a road car too and you want it legal. I'm fitting 4 pots on the rear of my 500 but will be using a diffrent method for handbrake operation.

will that be a hush hush setup mart ,

or will it be going into production , does it still comply to being road legal ?


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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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wilwood and hispec both do 4pot calipers that have the mechanical handbrake section in them

wilwood range also has a single piston caliper like the original sierra rear caliper that looks like a 4pot caliper as well

surely if the rears are working that hard, the bias is wrong or the fronts arent working as they should? maybe differing pad materials front to back?
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
Yes if its a road car too and you want it legal. I'm fitting 4 pots on the rear of my 500 but will be using a diffrent method for handbrake operation.
Mechanical or hydraulic?
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ybturbo
Mechanical or hydraulic?
Mechanical


Originally Posted by -beefy-
will that be a hush hush setup mart ,

or will it be going into production , does it still comply to being road legal ?


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It will be for sale once finalised and parts are manufactured.

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ive heard nowt but bad ratings bout the hi spec setups


be nice to hear of someone runing either setup ?


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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mk2 cossie
wilwood and hispec both do 4pot calipers that have the mechanical handbrake section in them

wilwood range also has a single piston caliper like the original sierra rear caliper that looks like a 4pot caliper as well

surely if the rears are working that hard, the bias is wrong or the fronts arent working as they should? maybe differing pad materials front to back?
Yes it was Hispec calipers! No the bias is good because the difference is shown after some heavy use (130mph to 40 lets say 3-4 times in short period) and I have same pads materials front and back (Ferodo DS2500).
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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as yb wrote , will it still comply to road legal mart ,

can u let us in on the caliper your using , brembo , ap ?


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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
Mechanical




It will be for sale once finalised and parts are manufactured.
I'm looking forward for that!!!
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
ive heard nowt but bad ratings bout the hi spec setups


be nice to hear of someone runing either setup ?


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Good thing I haven't purchased any of their setup yet!
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
as yb wrote , will it still comply to road legal mart ,

can u let us in on the caliper your using , brembo , ap ?


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It will be mot legal and work with my AP and Brembo set ups.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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CANT WAIT , ! any idea how long were looking at ??


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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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Geoffs calipers are ok, his discs can be a bit hit and miss, but the calipers are spot on, I know someone using them on a very tuned quatrro, who's very happy with them, I've known geoff years and quality has improved esp very recently, but his calipers have always been ok, he's got rid of the monkeys who were working for him.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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who the fuck is geoff ?


hes not petes second uncle is he , you know , used to knock about with clive and phil , dated julie for a while ??


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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
who the fuck is geoff ?


hes not petes second uncle is he , you know , used to knock about with clive and phil , dated julie for a while ??


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he is the man behind hi spec

and as for the 4x4 rear being no good for track then I will disagree, my race car stops very very well on it's std cos 4x4 set up with dS3000 pads, yes given more of a budget I would have ap's all round but I haven't got a budget so can't lol
only twice so far has a car outbraked me that I was racing along side (was a rover 200 and a 2009 clio cup car)
even had a honda teg owner asked my what brakes I had as he couldn't stay with me in the braking zone and his car is a lot lighter than mine!

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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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I will be using these on my S2 eventually brembo hanbrake calipers

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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
It will be mot legal and work with my AP and Brembo set ups.
I smell a simillar setup like BMW handbrake?
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Iv got AP 4 pots and just using the hydraulic handbrake
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Originally Posted by puss
I will be using these on my S2 eventually brembo hanbrake calipers


puss you got any more pics of them fella ?

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