So I went to a mechanic and told him to give me an idea what engine should I make to fit it on my orion.

Do you thing its a good idea to fit one and then make a turbo conversion on it?

What should I use as dash clocks since I don't like my orion ones also its has a clock not a ref counter.

Thanks a lot

 

If you thinking of going down the turbo route then a 2.0 blacktop would be a far better base to start with and you have more options also in that respect even with it in N/A form or turbocharged form a lot more flexibility and tuning parts available for it than the ST170 engine. If you were to stay N/A then I'd say go ST170 but with the turbo in mind then 2.0 blacktop. Dash clocks you could use out of an Escort I suspect or a Focus. Also consider a 2.0 will be invariably cheaper than the ST170 engine

 

the dash clocks get from escort with a rev counter in it just make sure its the same mk as ur ie mk3 or mk4

engine wise the black top and st170 are the same engine so parts are the same but the st head is better so i hear put the blacktop is cheaper

 

yes they told me that its the same but the st170 has a better bottom end (block) and a better gearbox. i was going to do a dta ecu so i will turbo it for sure. I'm looking for now a 250-300 bhp approximate will be more than good from a swap of a 1.8 turbo diesel 130 bhp. In future will upgrade for sure but better I learn to drive at that power for now and upgrade once I will be comfortable at that power.

 

its a lot of work to fit the st170 gearbox in a mk3/4

 

The ST170 has the same basic block as a 2.0L focus. The rotating assy is different - rods and pistons are sinter-forged. Compression ratio is 10.2:1 with standard head, whereas a standard 2.0L is 9:1, so a little more turbo friendly. You will get away with 250 on standard comp, just, but the boost required to run any more power just results in horrendous detonation at that comp ratio.

Cheapest future proof way of building a zetec turbo? Buy a 2nd hand 2.0L - @Ł250; new FRS short-engine from ford - ~Ł800 trade; EFI inlet; management of some kind; focus rs 'ford motorsport' tubular manifold from ebay; turbo, injector etc of your choice.

Chris

 

hmm nice thanks to all for the great help