Larger uprated diff for a 3dr cossie???
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As above I am looking into a larger diff for my 3dr.I don't want anything noisy clonky diffs like Grippa,don't want a Quaife either.
What are my options on a larger diff,where can I get one from and what sort of money please?I know Kevin Sharp had a 9" diff on his escos converted to rwd.
Will the driveshafts have to be modified or the beam itself?Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.Lee.
What are my options on a larger diff,where can I get one from and what sort of money please?I know Kevin Sharp had a 9" diff on his escos converted to rwd.
Will the driveshafts have to be modified or the beam itself?Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.Lee.
As above I am looking into a larger diff for my 3dr.I don't want anything noisy clonky diffs like Grippa,don't want a Quaife either.
What are my options on a larger diff,where can I get one from and what sort of money please?I know Kevin Sharp had a 9" diff on his escos converted to rwd.
Will the driveshafts have to be modified or the beam itself?Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.Lee.
What are my options on a larger diff,where can I get one from and what sort of money please?I know Kevin Sharp had a 9" diff on his escos converted to rwd.
Will the driveshafts have to be modified or the beam itself?Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.Lee.
The 9" fits in the std 2wd beam, you have to drill 1 hole in the floorpan further over to bolt the diff mount to the car as they use a different mount, and iirc you can use a pair of the longer 2wd driveshafts.
9'' is an rs 500 diff i think. Rod use,s a daimler limo diff think thats a 10.5'' but u would have to pm him about beam / flange and sharft mods thats the cheap option!. If u go ford 9'' there mega money so u may as well go gripper or quaife with a uprated cwp good for 500lb ft un less u drive like a twat all the time
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Is the 9" diff like an RS500 ITEM THEN,i THOUGHT THE DIFF ON A 500 WAS THE SAME AS ANY 2WD DIFF?
Where could I get a 9" diff from and what sort of prices am I looking at please?
MANY THANKS.Lee.
Where could I get a 9" diff from and what sort of prices am I looking at please?
MANY THANKS.Lee.
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From what I've read the 9" rear end was homologated originally for the RS200 to cope with 650bhp+ and then adapted for use in the Gp A Sierras.
They were originally plate type ZF ones at first then viscous coupling on the Mk2 design.
Think you can get 4:27, 4.09, 3.82, 3.64, 3.42, 3.25 and 3.08 ratios. Andy G uses a VC in his Focus - the advantanges of the bigger VC is that it resists the build up of heat for longer without a cooler (although you could plumb one in ) and the diff can be rated much 'tighter' than a 7.5" with nickel plates - see the big thread on rear diffs for more info from the people who know like ian sibbert, markk, Tony Ryan etc.
The diff internals are much stronger obviously on the 9" as well.
As said though, they're not cheap.
Have you thought about the Titan plated diff ( supposed to be quieter than a Gripper ) that Mike R can get hold of in a 7.5" fitment? I don't know how much power/torque you run and how you drive though
They were originally plate type ZF ones at first then viscous coupling on the Mk2 design.
Think you can get 4:27, 4.09, 3.82, 3.64, 3.42, 3.25 and 3.08 ratios. Andy G uses a VC in his Focus - the advantanges of the bigger VC is that it resists the build up of heat for longer without a cooler (although you could plumb one in ) and the diff can be rated much 'tighter' than a 7.5" with nickel plates - see the big thread on rear diffs for more info from the people who know like ian sibbert, markk, Tony Ryan etc.
The diff internals are much stronger obviously on the 9" as well.
As said though, they're not cheap.
Have you thought about the Titan plated diff ( supposed to be quieter than a Gripper ) that Mike R can get hold of in a 7.5" fitment? I don't know how much power/torque you run and how you drive though
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9" diff,how bloody much.Well that's out the window then.I'm looking for something to cope with 500bhp probably 450lbs/ft torque at least.I was contemplating just getting my standard diff rebuilt as the car won't be tracked,launched or driven that hard on the road.The planet gears shouldn't break if it's not launched should it?
So u think I should contact MIKE R then to see wht he has for a 7.5" diff?Like I say I don't wasnt it noisy and clonkey like a grippa diff.What size are the Quaife diffs and Grippa diffs anyway are they still standard 7.5" size?
Thanks.Lee.
So u think I should contact MIKE R then to see wht he has for a 7.5" diff?Like I say I don't wasnt it noisy and clonkey like a grippa diff.What size are the Quaife diffs and Grippa diffs anyway are they still standard 7.5" size?
Thanks.Lee.
bit less BHP than your lookin for but this may be some help
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...-cosworth.html
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...-cosworth.html
9" diff,how bloody much.Well that's out the window then.I'm looking for something to cope with 500bhp probably 450lbs/ft torque at least.I was contemplating just getting my standard diff rebuilt as the car won't be tracked,launched or driven that hard on the road.The planet gears shouldn't break if it's not launched should it?
So u think I should contact MIKE R then to see wht he has for a 7.5" diff?Like I say I don't wasnt it noisy and clonkey like a grippa diff.What size are the Quaife diffs and Grippa diffs anyway are they still standard 7.5" size?
Thanks.Lee.
So u think I should contact MIKE R then to see wht he has for a 7.5" diff?Like I say I don't wasnt it noisy and clonkey like a grippa diff.What size are the Quaife diffs and Grippa diffs anyway are they still standard 7.5" size?
Thanks.Lee.
3k for a 9" Diff??? KIN-HELL.............
Lee, Quaife on my saff was superb m8....but you don't want one anyway

You're spending some pennies on that car m8.............

Lee, Quaife on my saff was superb m8....but you don't want one anyway

You're spending some pennies on that car m8.............
I am having the same problem in my Cosse 2wd.
Does anyone have further info on this 9" diff? What cars are using it?
Has anyone consider the Ford 8.8 diff from Thunderbird?
Or a BMW diff?
Regarding the Supra MkII solution, can you please give some more details? I.e. where to buy etc?
Does anyone have further info on this 9" diff? What cars are using it?
Has anyone consider the Ford 8.8 diff from Thunderbird?
Or a BMW diff?
Regarding the Supra MkII solution, can you please give some more details? I.e. where to buy etc?
Someone that was once selling one may know a bit about them
http://fordpower.org.uk/forum/index....&mode=threaded
http://fordpower.org.uk/forum/index....&mode=threaded
Last edited by BRAMMER; Apr 11, 2010 at 12:57 AM.
I am having the same problem in my Cosse 2wd.
Does anyone have further info on this 9" diff? What cars are using it?
Has anyone consider the Ford 8.8 diff from Thunderbird?
Or a BMW diff?
Regarding the Supra MkII solution, can you please give some more details? I.e. where to buy etc?
Does anyone have further info on this 9" diff? What cars are using it?
Has anyone consider the Ford 8.8 diff from Thunderbird?
Or a BMW diff?
Regarding the Supra MkII solution, can you please give some more details? I.e. where to buy etc?
Contact Lincoln off here if you want more info as he has gone this route.
With regards the 9inch, the last time i spoke to Bara im sure they were like £3000-3500+vat
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Yes they are 3.5k+vat at BARA,u do have to modify the beam and the group A diff mount is no good,there is a specificalkly designed mount for a 9" diff,I think u have to drill a hole in the body aswell to fit this diff mount.Kevin Sharp,breaking his escos in the parts section,he had the diff,now sold,he knows quite a lot about it.
CheeRS.Lee.
CheeRS.Lee.
Last edited by 1374lee; Apr 11, 2010 at 05:00 PM.
Yes they are 3.5k+vat at BARA,u do have to modify the beam and the groupa diff mount is no good,there is a specificalkly designed mount for a 9" diff,I think u have to drill a hole in the body aswell to fit this diff mount.Kevin Sahrp,breaking his escos in the parts section,he had the diff,now sold,he knows quite a lot about it.
CheeRS.Lee.
CheeRS.Lee.
Are you saying I could replace my 7,5" diff in my 2wd 3doors Sierra Cosworth with a 9" Ford diff without any mods, beam, cardan etc.?
I like it!
Have you any name of the car types I could buy the 9" diff from?
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