Are escos Rondells 8.5x18 ET18

and are Engells the same?

 

my reconing is rondells were available in both 8 and 8.5x18 et20 and et18 respectivley

i had 8.5x18 engells on my old blue escos and the ones i have for sale now are the 8x18 variant

i stand to be correctd on the original rondell sizing if i am wrong but i am positive on the engells having had both sizes