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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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is it best to tile before or after the bathroom suit is fitted??
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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fit the bath and tile around matt ,then fit the toilet and sink temporarily ,then remove and tile behind them ,then refit toilet and sink

does that make sense?
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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I always leave the bog and sink out before tiling, always get a better finish when they are fitted on the tiles rather than cutting around.

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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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nice one lads, seems logical now you have said it. Going to get a suit tomorrow 3k!!! so don't want anything to let it down.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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3k for a suit.

Whats it made of Matt????

As the above.

Bath fitted - tile around.

No toilet on the wall just the soil pipe sticking through tile around.

No sink on the wall and tile around.

Job done..

2mins and I'll post a few pics
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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looking good Jake, very good.

It's a pretty expensive suit but it is the bollocks and can't find the same anywhere else, plus we are having the wirlpool system fitted and some proper fancy taps etc.

I am usually a bit tight lol!! but wanted to make the bathroom really nice as we have lived with a shite set up for 4 years and ALWAYS had pants bathrooms in the past so wanted one that is a nice place to be.

Sadly the suit is only a tiny part, walls need to come out, doors blocked up, plasting, celing, new windows, hall stairs landing will need doing due to the door getting blocked up and so the attic ladders may as well go in, like domino's, one thing means another needs to be sorted.

All fun!!
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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Tell me about it...


Where the taps are set into the wall used to be a boiler cupbaord which came into the bathroom - the toilet used to be where the bath was.

Where the sink is on the wall used to be in the back bedroom- its now a stud wall moved 400mm across which gave 25% extra in the bathroom and made the bedroom a nats cock smaller.

I have removed walls, re plastered, tiled, complete new suite, new ceiling, light fittings, floor, wastes, moved the soil stack (MJ Tiff Plumbing), radiator... the list goes on.

Theres prob 3k in there all told but its a wow now rather than an OH....

Next project is looking ever more likely to be a part burnt out house...
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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it looks good Jake, all ads to the value of the place.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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Good effort that Dan

I like the big tiles, I was told in a smaller space to avoid them.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Shings
Good effort that Dan

I like the big tiles, I was told in a smaller space to avoid them.
i didn't get a say in anything
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by matts1
it looks good Jake, all ads to the value of the place.

I aint got a clue whats going on with the market at the mo.

I paid Ł110k in June last year it will be done prob July this year.

I will have spent Ł12-Ł13k doing it including kitchen, white goods and carpets (yes from Christian when I get to that point)

I expected and anticipated it going on the market for Ł160k and take Ł150-Ł155k which would enable me to get a 3bed in similar condition and area but not extend my mortgage.

2 house have gone on the market in the last 4 weeks one is 6 houses to the left of mine and the other 7 house to the right.

Both 2 bed semi's both similar to how I have changed stuff round to mine but wont be as freshly done and as modern.

Both gone on the market at Ł200k....

???????????????????????????????????????

PS - thats why I am looking at a part burnt out house as I will have the cash to buy it straight out.
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
i didn't get a say in anything
I am a single bloke, the house is mine, my money, my job, all mine.

My mom chose the fucking bathroom taps - you cant escape no matter what you do!!!

WOMEN!
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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House prices are all over the shop mate, one thing for sure it that if the house is done up well it will sell.

A friend of ours had a place done out nice, got it valued at 114k 120k and 150k !!! so stuck it on the market at 150k to see what would happen, sold in a week to the first to view it.

Two other mates lived in the same road last year, both did there places up the same but one did it with lots of care and attention to all the little bits, proper prep and no cutting corners. His place sold in one day, actually within a few hours of going on the market, the other, who had kind of slapped it together took 6 months and at a much lower price.

IMO they key is going an older house that new build feel, lots of people don't like new builds for the build quality but like that 'ready to move in, brand new feel'. If you create that your on a winner.

Me and my brother are going to buy a place in a few months, do it up, sell it and do it all again for a few years. Aim for us is to create a modern stylish look on a tight budget, so hopefully it will pay off. The last place i bought has only cost 5k to do out and is already worth a good whack over what i paid for it.
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when we had our bathroom done, they fitted the bath first, then tiled around it and the sink unit

the toilet was floor and wall tiled first before the toilet as fitted over the top of it

when we had our kitchen done, they tiled the floor first, then put the stuff in, then tiled between the units

it also depends on if you have a seperate toilet and bathroom like we do, or if you have a bath/toilet together like many of the newer builds
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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We tiled virtually all of the bathroom, even behind the bath etc. There are one or two areas where there are no tiles, but not many. I hate having cut tiles and with the exception of at the top/bottom etc, there are very few.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by matts1
House prices are all over the shop mate, one thing for sure it that if the house is done up well it will sell.

A friend of ours had a place done out nice, got it valued at 114k 120k and 150k !!! so stuck it on the market at 150k to see what would happen, sold in a week to the first to view it.

Two other mates lived in the same road last year, both did there places up the same but one did it with lots of care and attention to all the little bits, proper prep and no cutting corners. His place sold in one day, actually within a few hours of going on the market, the other, who had kind of slapped it together took 6 months and at a much lower price.

IMO they key is going an older house that new build feel, lots of people don't like new builds for the build quality but like that 'ready to move in, brand new feel'. If you create that your on a winner.

Me and my brother are going to buy a place in a few months, do it up, sell it and do it all again for a few years. Aim for us is to create a modern stylish look on a tight budget, so hopefully it will pay off. The last place i bought has only cost 5k to do out and is already worth a good whack over what i paid for it.
totally... my house is a 1930's house and will have the modern feel and look.... i aim to do one a year for a few years to be mortgage free or in a big house with little mortgage by the time i'm 35 - 5 years.....

Should be easy enough if i'm carefull.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Shings
totally... my house is a 1930's house and will have the modern feel and look.... i aim to do one a year for a few years to be mortgage free or in a big house with little mortgage by the time i'm 35 - 5 years.....

Should be easy enough if i'm carefull.
you have to keep em a couple of years after 2 sales mate or you have to pay tax on profits
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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matt what you doing with th ceiling mate, it may be an idea to level it off, either with plasterbords or upvc/spotlights before starting on the suite,that way you'll end up with an even row of cuts around the top, if your ceiling isn't level you could end up with small cuts leading to big cuts which looks wank.
ceiling pic with an even row of cuts







ceiling first, first fix all pipework shower etc, fit bath and shower tray (if its resin bonded), then we tile the walls off a levelled off 2x1 timber batten which is normally 8" or so off the floor all the way round the room, do the walls and then remove the timber batten to do the floor, then put the bottom course of wall tiles in down to and on top of the floor, then 2nd fix whb,wc,shower, enclosure etc.this is a pic of a job first fixed and ready for tiles. this was a really cheap suite but the process is the same. bath done and usable, tray in and waste connected



i always use chrome plated pipe where it can be seen as well, its a much neater job when its finished,, even the radiator needs new pipework and chrome valves as they look shite without it. if you're doing a shorter towel rail do it something like this, as its a neater job, if its fitted at the same height as a radiator then the chances are you'll never use the bottom part of the rail, if its higher up (at least have the bottom of the rail at the height of the bath as a guide) you'll use all of it.


same one finished below



different job, same procedure



same one close up, really cheap b&q valves but a bit of chrome looks a lot better



even if you've got a tall towel rail the pipe work is better like this in the wall, it gives the room a tidier look than the pipework coming thru' the floor, nice clean lines




another chrome pipe pic



the walls and floor in this one were done before any of the units were fitted,



shower tray fitted as a first fix, then tiles, shower and enclosure fitted as a second fix after tiling, again nice clean lines around the room, mucho neatness lol




before




after, its all in the planning and prep mate.




i think i got those last ones the right way round lol

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