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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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The pistons!! I can finally start building my new engine!







Two questions though, which way round to the pistons go, arrow and small valve cut out pointing to the front of the car or to the rear?
Was such a long time ago that I took mine out I cant remember! lol

Also these rods dont have an oil spray hole like normal rods (which I think is odd?!) so is there a correct way round for these or does it not matter?

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dunno bout rods m8 but arrow pionts forward
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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just realised u done the same piston an valve as me lol, did NMS charge u for fixi the head?
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Looking good Karl. Arrow points in the direction of the crack rotation. ie: towards the front, with the large valve cut out for the larger inlet valves at the back.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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nice stuf mate

Hope you wil be driving the cab soon ones again!
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by turbocabessex
just realised u done the same piston an valve as me lol, did NMS charge u for fixi the head?
It wasnt my valve that broke, it was the valve seat that fell out!! NMS did the labour for free but I had to pay for new seats and valves.

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Looking good Karl. Arrow points in the direction of the crack rotation. ie: towards the front, with the large valve cut out for the larger inlet valves at the back.
Sweet cheers!
Thought as much, the valve size kind of gives it away but always best to check..... do once do it right! lol
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sweet, good to see it all there mate! you going to central day by any chance?

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When is it mate?
All depends on when the car is back together, bought a Quaife quick rack today so thats another thing on the list of things to do/fit before i'm on the road again!
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Nice bit of kit good luck with the rebuild.:dd:
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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Hopefully will be running by the end of the month, all depends on what the weather is like though...... dont want to be outside in the freezing cold/rain/snow fitting my engine! lol
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Think its middle of April at the Pod.... weather is shit, started my rebuild yest and hating it!

Did you get your rack off ebay btw?

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Aaaah Karl... Glad you got your parts ok. Lets see and hear them pushing some ponies now..
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Indeed i am matey just got to rush to get the car done and run in

You camping?

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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Yeah dude it'll be good

Camping? I didn't know u could camp at this one?

If so i'm there Be better if some of the RST lad's could camp up too would be an awesome weekend
me ,rick and project rs will be camping this year
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Think its middle of April at the Pod.... weather is shit, started my rebuild yest and hating it!

Did you get your rack off ebay btw?

Rob,
Yes mate I did, were you watching/bidding?
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Awesome show been going for year's

Hopefully running the strip there You going then rob? Karlos?
If i'm all done why not!
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Aaaah Karl... Glad you got your parts ok. Lets see and hear them pushing some ponies now..
Hmm... Who is this then, Jano or a colleague i'm guessing? lol
Well i'm spec'd for 220-240bhp, my limiting factor is a Stage 2 T3 (.36/55) so hopefully something around that!
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Brilliant stuff

So why don't we all arrange a weekend camp up?

It'll be a good laugh and certainly good to meet some of you?!
no prob's have to sort it out nearer the time tho.

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Ye sorry for the Hijack mate lol

The day before central day is a RWYB day as well so we usually turn up for this because central day is busy busy.

Be nice to put a few names and faces together!

240brake Karlos? I seem to remember someone getting a healthy 250ish with that spec, although saying that i am looking for a .48 exhaust housing to jam on mine when i rebuild it.

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Its Jano fella.
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Ye sorry for the Hijack mate lol

The day before central day is a RWYB day as well so we usually turn up for this because central day is busy busy.

Be nice to put a few names and faces together!

240brake Karlos? I seem to remember someone getting a healthy 250ish with that spec, although saying that i am looking for a .48 exhaust housing to jam on mine when i rebuild it.

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Well TT say their Stage 2 tops out at 240bhp and Christian told me the same when I was last up at APT (.36 is restrictive at that point), also my mapping will play a big part in the final output so we'll just have to see what happens!
When I last spoke to Karl Norris he advised a .48 to keep temps down and to dial in a little cam advance to reduce lag, but I want as much response as possible not worried about big bhp printouts, so staying with the .36 and hoping things dont get to warm

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Its Jano fella.
Ah lol That makes sense!
Saw your motor in this months FF, nice little toy you have there mate!

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.48 would be much better. Also if you take a good look inside a std .36 most of them have cracks.... Even rebult/recon ones from leading suppliers, you would never know as most people who buy them wouldnt strip them back down to find out!
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Yeah I just dont want the lag thats the trouble, it is a 'new' turbo from TT but I guess you've seen enough to know, and no I have not stripped it down to look.
I'm also only running a stock gearbox so it's already on it's limit at over 200bhp, I know if I had a .48 on there I couldnt help myself but to run to the limit and be pushing up near 260bhp+....... trying to build a reliable car not one that needs a new box every 10mins! lol
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lag is nothing with the spec you got mate. Wont feel any different to the next cvh.

have a look at the graphs i put up on another forum and see what the diff really is.
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Really?? When i've had stage 3 T3's (.48/55) in the past i've noticed at least a 500rpm difference in spool up
It doesnt sound a lot but when we have such a short power band every little helps!

Have you got a link to those graphs please?

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cant put up links on here fella, traders get the hump think im trying to sell something instead of helping which is pretty obvious if you read in context.. lol

anywhos you should know where to look by now mate
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when u hoping to have it done karlos
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Originally Posted by Versus_Creations
cant put up links on here fella, traders get the hump think im trying to sell something instead of helping which is pretty obvious if you read in context.. lol

anywhos you should know where to look by now mate
Yeah I'm looking in the power graphs & readings section as we speak

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when u hoping to have it done karlos
ASAP!!
I've got no time until the weekend really, and would be nice if it was a little bit warmer too!

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i been at mine all day m8, only got to put it back together an get a head gasket, not decided between a ford or payen yet tho, wanna hopefully av a word with jano an get it to him within nex couple of weeks, not gone as far as u have tho lol
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Yeah my full spec as it stands now is:

NMS Head, PP, SS Valves, etc..
Newmans Cam with solids.
TT Stage 2 T3 (.36/55)
Stock Crank, PEC Rods, Wossner Pistons CR 8.5:1
Radtec FMIC.
Apexi AVC-R EBC.
Megasquirt MS2 Extra.
AP Racing CP2000-35 Clutch.
Hydraulic Clutch Conversion.
Focus ST 300mm front brakes, Cossie rears.
Spax Adjustables.
Fresh BC Box with Quaife ATB LSD.
Quaife 2.2 quick rack.

Think thats about it... Should be a nice nippy little car, although power steering is next on my list of jobs for the summer

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should have a nice mappable torquey motor there, im only aimin for around 190/200 as i really cant justify spendin alot on a box at the moment
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Yes mate I did, were you watching/bidding?
I was watching mate, forgot to bid lol happy i tho as i would only have pushed the price up for you. etc.

Think thats about it... Should be a nice nippy little car, although power steering is next on my list of jobs for the summer
Infact that was my exact thought! Quick rack and power steering (motor from a punto or even MGF) as the turn in would be great but also parkable so good luck mate

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Karlos where did you buy your MS from?

Cheers again

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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
I was watching mate, forgot to bid lol happy i tho as i would only have pushed the price up for you. etc.

Infact that was my exact thought! Quick rack and power steering (motor from a punto or even MGF) as the turn in would be great but also parkable so good luck mate

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I was thinking Corsa D electric PS..

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Karlos where did you buy your MS from?

Cheers again

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Phil from www.extraefi.co.uk mate, i've bought 4 ECU's through him now, top bloke
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Nice one cheers mate,

I looked at him but think i will buy a kit which i don't think he sells.

Corsa PAS motor is probably better than the puntos as loads of these have failed. Think the mgf is electric too, so you could poke your head up your girl friends (excuse me) and see how adaptable it is,

HOWEVER

Power steering and LSD's don't mix that well with torque steer, a lot of 4x4 cars don't have lsd's up front for this reason, and most fwd cars don't have lsd's and assisted steering because of this (unless the have torque proportioning diffs),

The electric steering is perfect, you could turn it on when you want to park and off for 'spirited' driving

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Got it built yet buddy?

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Not even started! Too fucking cold outside!
I've decided to build the bottom end up in my kitchen one afternoon this week, and then the head another lol
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