which manufacturer past old and modern makes the best handling or driving hatches not just the fastest but the best all rounder on tracck say


surely renault are in with a shout

 

pug 205 1.9 great allrounder


cheers james

 

Ford.
3 door cos
escort cos, rs2000 etc etc
focus rs mk1/2
frst
erst
xr4

there are a few :P

 

Buget dependant ?

REALITY (for me)
205 1.9 gti,
Clio Williams

DREAMS
F360 CS
F430 Scud.

i'd struggle to pick between these two in either set

 

Peugeot, a well set up 205/309 or 106 is unbelievably good!

 

on the whole for cheap fwd hatch's i'd say honda

 

honda integra typer won evo mags fwd bit i think, followed by clio 182 trophy.

 

them clio sport must be good allrounders

 

defo 205 gti for me best car iv had

 

205 or clio 16v/williams/172/82/97

 

Clio Williams was the best fwd hatch i've driven, next to nothing in it performance wise between that and the newer Clio 172, but it was a much better driving experience.

 

escort cosworth.

 

Wouldn't class an Escos as a hot hatch. Yes, it's a hatch-back but it's always been out of the normal hot hatch price range.

If I was to buy a hot-hatch, I'd probably go for a Fiesta ST. Focus is great too but IMO too big and heavy

 

It depends on your driving style as much as anything IMO.

Take me for example, I tend not to slow down into corners compared to other people, so for me a RWD would be a nightmare as I'd spend too much time with the rear wheels doing nothing useful.

I have had an Integra Type R DC2 and on the road and the track (Brands) it was absolutely stunning to drive. Good feedback, power and handling. You could put it in a corner and you knew what it was going to do.

My 4be is so quick round corners compared to most other cars I have had/driven but slower in a straight line compared to some 2wd cars. But it would get me round the corner, not straight on into trouble.

 

205 for me too, only ever driven a Mi16 and the way it held after being chucked in at 60-70 on tight bends just stuck with me...

106's are up there too though, the S1 Rallyes aren't more than 100kg over a Mini and can beat most round the track with 130-140hp

 

i agree 205 1.9 gti were cracking cars!but i also loved my xr2!was always a laugh driving that!

 

me too 205 1.9gti makes a good rally car too

 

DC2

 

205 1.9 gti, renault 5 gt turbo, renault clio williams and 172, honda civic type r, mk1 focus rs

 

i do want a little track car i have been looking at the 205 gti and 106 rallye ....also you can get phase 1 clio 172 for under 2k now

 

my lotus sunbeam handled reasonably well.......

 

I quite frankly couldn't get on with my 205 track car, I had a 182 for a Road car and it was ok but for me the Ph1 172 was awesome - it just seemed to work properly as it had 15s.

So for me... a Ph1 172 Clio....

Having said that my ST170 is pretty damn planted but just not as fast.

 

i liked how my focus rs went round the ring........

integra type r also a great car

205 gti,so much fun!

 

i'm actually quite surprised the 205 is being mentioned so much in this thread.

 

Why are people mentioning specific cars? Wasnt the question which manufacturer?


Dunno Pug if pretty good for amount of good hot hatches i suppose.

 

yeh 205 1.9or1.6 gti 106 gti . i even had a nova gte and that want bad just not that fast

 

integra type-r is a coupe gents

 

i have a 205 mi16 and my m8 has a 309 goodwood mi16 and both have good power but the handling on both are superb much better than my old s2 so it would have to be peugeot makes the best hot hatch for me

 

yep loved my 205mi16 plenty of poke and would out handle most things
and for my money if i was looking for something to use on track it would have to be a pug

 

Puma Racing for me.

 

im goin to look at a pug 205 gti 1.6 white later tyhe next road from me ..the feller only wants around 700 for it and it looks clean half leather ..it hasnt moved for years and he cant afford to use it as he races e30 bmws ..i think he isnt bothered about the pug

 

Puma 1.7

Look at the list of cars in the back of EVO magazine, and read the rating.

5 stars out of 5, and the summary...

+ Everything
- Nothing

Says it all. Awesome little car that costs fuck all to buy and run.

 

honda of course

 

only probem is its a coupe and 1 car, this thread is about which maker makes the best hatch's lol

 

Well they listed it in the hot hatch section iirc, lol.

In terms of manufacturer of the best hot hatches, ok then, easy one.....

Ford

 

Just out of interest what "great" hatch's has ford produced over the years?

ps I aint saying they havent made any i am asking which you think are "great" and obviosly better than other brands of car to make them the best.

 

I think all the recent Ford hatches have superior chassis' to any of their rivals.

I don't necessarily just mean the "hot" versions either.

Every Fiesta from the MK4 onwards has been a revelation.

Same goes for the Focus. When the original Focus came along it showed everyone else how much fun a run-of-the-mill mid-sized hatch could be.

 

Ford, even their shitty shopping hatches are nice to drive compared to their contemporarys so IMO they are the greatest driving hatches as they have good handling running throughout the whole range and always have done

If you are asking who made the best hatch for a one off sunday blast down your fave lanes without taking into account day to day practicality then Renault, the R26R is the most focussed and driver rewarding hot hatch their has been and the clio 172/182 were little gems and kick any Honda hatch into touch

 

i dont like the way mk6 fiesta handles but mk5 zetec s are fun

 

if your talking about the entire honda range then your just been silly or are you on about uk only? as the honda's over in japan make the r26r 172's etc look very average