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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Can anyone recomend what brand to use? I am in cumbria, is there anywhere in the north offering this type of service?

Also how much should I be looking to pay?

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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Can anyone recomend what brand to use? I am in cumbria, is there anywhere in the north offering this type of service?

Also how much should I be looking to pay?

Cheers.
your prob best off with somethin like the superchips bluefin
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Do they still offer the plug and play kit? I read somewhere that once the cars were out of their warrenty customers no longer wanted the option of removing the map and were after conventional chips. I was just wondering what was available and what prices were.

Im sure somone told me you can just have a bluefin re-map as opposed to the plug and play unit.????
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Is it even worth it? What sort of gains do they actually get?
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Bluefin is shit, get Dreamscience.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Is it even worth it? What sort of gains do they actually get?
About 10bhp and similar torque. The main reason im after it is it apparently irons out the slight pause than the ST170 is notorious for at about 2K revs.
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Bluefin is shit, get Dreamscience.
Any reasoning behind this?
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how much are them blue fins/dream science kits grit worth it for 10 bhp.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
how much are them blue fins/dream science kits grit worth it for 10 bhp.
As stated above, the power gain isnt the main reason.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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I have Bluefin, it gave me 4bhp and 2ft.lbs of torque from 4000rpm upwards. Very basic and generic maps that don't give a lot of improvement. Dreamscience is much more specific, offers 5 maps for the ST170 and more, and can also be custom mapped to your vehicle. All in all a much more suited and accurate map and with more features than Bluefin too.
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Any idea how mch Bluefin and Dreamscience are?
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by white2lsr
Any idea how mch Bluefin and Dreamscience are?
for n/a 's bluefin comes in around Ł234 and DS is about double.
superchips have a ford warranty agreement and im sure there 'play it safe' maps illustrate this whereas other mappers arent obliged to keep things in a super over safe area and able to exploit a cars performance a little more.

plug and play is very hit and miss.for some it will tick all the boxes but for others?? well.
its such a variable thing its no big surprise.

i went for a bluefin and it has given a little more grunt in the first 2 gears and it now drives like silk seemlessly thru to the top end.i have no doubt it hasnt added break neck BHP but it did what i asked it to,it made the car drive better.

if you want your monies worth in terms of spending 'dreamscience kinda cash',then i would bypass handhelds altogether and go there in person.get it mapped on the roll rather than give Ł500 for a plastic module and guess.

i went down the bluefin road and paid half that,but it cant be emphasised enough,plug and play can be vague lol
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Originally Posted by white2lsr
As stated above, the power gain isnt the main reason.
Sorry bud can you notice the difference when its been done.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pani_k
Bluefin is shit, get Dreamscience.
They're both shit...

Benni.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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I had a remap on my last st170, I fitted a fuull janspeed exhaust, pipercross vbiper and bluefin all in the same day, the biggest gain was from the exhaust and filter.... then 4 months later had a custom remap at performance 3000 aned it was like a different car, smoother, better throttle response and pulled alot better lower down

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The hesitation you talk about turned out to be a faulty Plug Lead and the coil pack on its way out on my car.

Cost me Ł65 pattern parts to sort it and that was late on a sunday afternoon out of desperation.

I have heard of this slight miss - why not give the ignition system a once over - plugs/leads/coil pack - less than Ł70 quid if you shop around and easy hours job.
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I got bluefin and 8.5mm ignition lead. engines smooth as anything now.
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