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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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600 bhp out of a 24v cossie


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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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Whod ever have thought 200bhp per litre would be so difficult
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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Whod ever have thought 200bhp per litre would be so difficult
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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or steve 100bhp per cylinder
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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coonts lol

but your very true its has taken time and its not thats good


The power curve looks like a YB though

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
600 bhp out of a 24v cossie
piece of cake and easy to do
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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The bhp and torque cross over at around 4900 rpm

The graph is from a badly calibrated dyno or a fabrication

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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if you read the dyno is out of calibration at 500 bhp and knowing the guy I believe it.

at 18 psi the a 24v cossie should make over 600 bhp. the main problem the block explodes and high rpm


I don't know have long it would last
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 10:17 PM
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18psi means nothing! psi is an indication of pressure not airflow, a car could have 1bhp at 18psi

and agree the power/torque crossover point is well out.

bit of a shonky dyno sheet, like the one trubador had on that RST...
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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steve I know the standard air flow of a standard 24v. I have seen with my own eye's a 24v running 7 psi make 320 bhp.

But I must admit not sure about the cross over though
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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that graph looks like i drew it on photoshop controlling the mouse with my penis
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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steve I know the standard air flow of a standard 24v. I have seen with my own eye's a 24v running 7 psi make 320 bhp
But you dont know what turbos hes using do you, and you dont know what head or cam spec either, never mind exhaust and intercooling.

psi is just PRESSURE on the inlet side, not flow, and power certainly dont rise anything like equally with boost pressure.

Just cause some 24v got 320bhp at 7psi dont mean that (if the engine was strong enough and it had the fuel for it) that it would be 600bhp if they turned up the boost to 18psil...

Engines dont work like that mate....
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigN
that graph looks like i drew it on photoshop controlling the mouse with my penis
FPMSL

Mohammed Ali, plugged into the mains, on photoshop, with his schlong doing the mouse, blindfolded and drunk, with David Blunkett guiding him
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Is the 5125 (or whatever RPM its supposed to be) torque / power crossover pointonly apply to 4 cyl engines?

I.E. isnt it a different number for different engine configurations?

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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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I agree Steve

I know one 24v TT which produces 274 a 8 psi and the other as above. There are loads of factors yes

But a good 24v with right fueling should be close to that fiqure
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil S
Is the 5125 (or whatever RPM its supposed to be) torque / power crossover pointonly apply to 4 cyl engines?

I.E. isnt it a different number for different engine configurations?

Neil.
No Neil. The formula is:

BHP=(TORQUExRPM)/5252 so when RPM gets to 5252, BHP has to equal TORQUE.
In that graph, the lines cross at around 4900, so something isn't right
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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.....and just for fun, here's a bullshit dyno sheet that I made earlier



I made it for a discussion on here a couple of years ago about how much (little) torque F1 engines have. It is mathmatically correct, but pure fiction, based around knowing that F1 engines at the time were making 800bhp at 18,000rpm or so, and that they idle at about 6000rpm.
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