This stuff hacks me off.

Underage drinking, binge drinking and people who don't know when to stop and become alcoholics and they claim it is the price of booze that causes the issue and raising it is the solution??

B*LLOCKS!!

You going to raise the price of fast foods as fat people are dying of obesisty??

It don't matter what price booze is, people out on the pist will still get pissed up, they will just spend a little more, wont stop them or make them drink any less.

Kids will always be able to chip in together and get booze, if they can buy fags and ganj, raising the price of booze aint going to make any odds.

Start by making it 100% compulsory to show id when buying booze - pubs, shops or supermarkets etc - EVERYONE has to show id in order to get served from someone 18 - 85 - no exceptions.

This will remove any arguements over "he looked old enough" and mean there is no way someone under 18/21 can buy booze.

ANY premises that is found to have sold to someone without ID is automatically shut for 30 days - no exception - see how many are willing to chance it when that takes affect - NONE!

Any adult found to have supplied/purchase alcohol to someone under age - 500 quid instant fine - no more of people buying kids outside shops booze.

Get rid of two for one deals, or happy hours to try and slow peoples binge antics, but you wont stop boozers and you wont stop people who have addictive natures and become alcoholic.

Nanny state, and usually a way for the government to cream some more cash, and punish us all for the few.

Bet most of the fookers supping to much or who are underage are the ones on benefits/dole and have the bleeding time to.

 

if you dont drink much them raising the prices wont really make a differance.

I think if you need medical care because they are pissed up etc, you should have to pay for it.

 

and yet tesco are doing 18 bottles for a fiver deal

 

me too!

what about the small pubs stuggling as it is!
just cause a few twats go out, get shit-faced and just wanna fight.

c'mon brown, not even a reach-around?

 

yeah its shit its 270/80ish a pint in my locals

i think its just an excuse for the dickheads in goverment to get more tax from us were in a resscion nobodys got any money so there putting up which will mean people drink less and they dont really get any extra money and the hispitalm thing is a very good idea

 

You get all those Party booze shops. I geuss they would all close under your proposed rule.
Good. Ive always thought they were really horrible places.

I like to go to the pub on the weekend.
I hardly drink in the house. In fact I got refused drink in Tescos a couple of weeks ago. Im 39 years old
I wasnt buying it for the kids. was a weekday afternoon. I had my bike, and could only fit 2 cans into my rucksack. They sell tins in 4s now.

 

They said on the radio earlier that binge drinking costs the nhs Łxxx a year. They failed to mention the fact that the nhs is funded by the government that earns 10 times that amount in the tax they put on alcohol!

to55ers.

What are they going to do when, people can't afford to buy petrol so we all have water powered cars.

Nobody wants to smoke because its not allowed anywhere.

and every1 stops drinking.

 

thing is raising the price WILL help. A lot of these binge drinkers are working and therefore have limited funds and simply when the money runs out they cant drink, these days there isnt the credit facilities to just get in debt drinking Remember these people arent alcoholics yet.

Raising the price wont effect scumbags as they dont earn money anyway And alcoholics will be forced into more crime to fund habbit thus bringing them more into the public eye and the legal system - which is good as in a roundabout way may force more to be done about it.

But yes the rest of us have to suffer because of a significant proportion of dickheads. But since when has this been any different in this country?????

 

Yeah thats because of the drinking patterns of a lot of alcys and homeless alcys who just buy 1 or 2 cans as they pick up coins/beg/sell something to keep themselves topped up.

Also drunk CHAV scum tend to buy one tinny at a time.

So only selling in 4s makes it harder for them.

 

yeah then tey just rob the shop

 

I asked the till assistant if the goverment could give me a bigger rucksack

 

lol they do have shopping bags you know made from nice plastic

 

I had my bike and a 10 mile ride home. The bags they have now wouldnt have carried 4 tins out of the shop. They rip so easily

 

true there must be a shop nearer to your house lol

 

you not heard?? they banning them too

 

nah not heard lol y they banning them lol

 

yes theres a shop in my village. But its lots dearer than Tescos.

I was out on a bike ride. Trying to get fitter.
Geuss that wont happen if I get beer when out.

 

i went for a ride yesterday on my bike pick up two thorns down the bp tracks so went like buggery to get to my mates before the tyres went down then just sat in his garage drinking beers with him equals it out i say lol

 

Alcohol is the new petrol, any way the government can raise taxes through a supposed cause. Is it blown out preportion? More kids drinking than ever, more alcoholics? Hmmm I do wonder and would like to see proper statistics. There's less people around town at weekends than ever if you ask me, regardless of happy hours. Easy tax in the current climate.

 

When I got that bike, A Marin Hawkhill MTB. Which cost me Ł10 at the car boot sale. It had 2 flat tyres. I had a mini pump, its hopeless though. I would pump away. Then put the pump in my rucksack. Get on and ride 20 feet and the tyres would be soft again. I got across town to a bike shop and asked them to pump the tyres. They had a compressor. So no problem. Rode pretty fast home the 10 miles.

As for bags. I ripped a bag last week, then another yesterday.
I ussualy reuse bags a few times. apparantly Tescos give points to you if you dont take a bag. I dont have a points card though.

 

is it easy tax though if nobodys going out there not getting as much as they wanted so theyll raise it again and just use the same binge drinking and crap excuse again

 

Totally agree with you matts1. If they put the prices up the scumbags/chavs that usually cause drink related problems will just resort to thieving to get the money to fund their drinking as they already do to fund drug habits. As you suggested it should be made harder for them to get the alcohol, that way even if they have the money they can't get the booze (or at least not so easily).
The next step is to make punishments more severe for anti social crimes. At the moment there is no incentive for chavs to behave as they know they won't get punished when they are caught misbehaving.

 

It's a load of shit, if you want to drink, eat, smoke, do drugs so be it.

Why should i have to pay over the odds for booze when i drink once a week, i don't smoke or drugs so i don't think it's going to have a massive impact on my health so fuck paying for someone else to drink their life away.

 

i go out every weekend down the pub and pub life is on its last legs ,they are closing down quick as a blink...now i pay tax on just about everything i do....tax on stuff i buy, tax on my motor, tax on fuel, council tax, tax on a holiday, tax on beer, the problem here dosent lie in your local pub,ive never seen a pissed up 12 year old in my local, go down the road to the local offy and you will find plenty.. its high street bars and supermarkets serving cheap booze, and off licenses selling to kids, there is an off licence local to me that has been warned three times about selling booze to kids......and he is still fookin doin it ....................i've had enough of this tax mad country...i need a drink................

 

In typical Labour fashion it will only hit the genuine people who can actually drink responsibly.

The root of the problem is loss leading on alcohol in supermarkets. Research shows that 60% of people are drunk before they go out known as "preloading" and is on the increase. The pubs and clubs are then left to pick up the pieces, these people are spending a minimal amount in town once they are out.
The licensed trade is having a tough enough time as it is and yet we are blamed for the binge drinking and underage drinking. In the main pubs etc.. are run responsibly and those that aren't are getting weeded out, lets face it how many pubs do you go in and there are some hoody wearing chavs sat drinking super strength cider and lager? They're not buying that in pubs, they're getting it in the cheapest places possible - supermarkets and shady off licences.

You pay for a lot more than just your beer in your local, the atmosphere, the service, the company of others etc... you don't get that out of 18 bottles for Ł10. I understand that people are on a budget but pubs are closing at a rate of 7 a day. The supermarkets will only be happy when everything is shut pubs, chippy, butchers, bakers (candlestick maker?) then the price will rocket.
Everything contributes to the price of your pint. Taxes, ingredient costs, energy, fuel for delivering. All this before we've even put it in your glass and we've still got to pay the staff, light and heat the place, wash the glass, clean the lines, cool the cellar. then 15% of your 2.80ish is to be paid as VAT.

Labour have the supermarkets in their pockets and have stopped reports into the supermarkets pricing on several occasions sending out a clear message that they won't do anything about it. Pubs have had their best days as a result.

I'll get down off my soapbox..........................

 

Just another way for the gov to rip off the vast majority of sensible drinkers, because of the few, same old story everytime with governments.
I watch programms that show pissed up people fighting etc etc, then people complaining about NHS resources, I would love to see actual figures of revenue taxes from booze compared with cost of treatments needed as a result of pissed up people.
I don't think this is the solution, people need a escape from life these days of hard times, I don't drink alcohol at all ever but don't think those that do should be penalised due to the few twats around.
tabetha