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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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story is i convinced pete of SPEC R to do nat day even though it has been put foward 2 weeks. so he rang to see how much a stand would be. an 8 metre front would cost 240 quid and would only include 2 car passes and 2 personel passes. now that is realy poor as he did trax and got a garage and space for 10 cars which included personel passes and cars for 500 quid and thats at silverstone too . RSOC said they couldnt do a better deal. now as nat day is going to be quieter and probally will be missing a few traders dont you think it would be in thier best intrest to get another trader to come. pete hasnt done nat day for 3 years and prob will not do any more. i just think the RSOC are shooting themselfs in the foot !!!!!!!
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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surely he would have sold enough stuff to cover the cost of the stand, thats the general idea anyway..

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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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surely he would have sold enough stuff to cover the cost of the stand, thats the general idea anyway..

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i was thinking the same
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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yeah but they still tend to sell it cheeper aswell though dont forget but that is a bit crap treatment to him
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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nope, too many people prefer to buy from ebay
i made all the effort to attend a recent show and sold 36 pounds worth.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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If you lower the price for one company and someone else finds out then word spreads you've very soon got a lot of people asking for reduced prices... And then expecting the same deal next year...

Can see your point, but can also see why the RSOC are sticking to their guns. Doesn't seem like a lot of cash for a stand in a show aimed at the most hardcore enthusiasts if you ask me!
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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I would much rather buy in person, flea bay is full of dick turpins
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best bit of the show for me was a good rummage through the trade stands.hope nat day isnt piss poor.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Show prices are generally reduced so say its down to 10% profit on everything

Even without any other overheads such as hotel, fuel, transport, staff etc

Thats £2400 in sales just to break even on stock, which on a wet cold day in September isn't going to happen on certain stands.

Dan some shows charge less for auto jumble stands so that argument does not work with me. They are trading just the same
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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James looks like it will be the B car on sat then?
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
James looks like it will be the B car on sat then?
dont get ya there dave what do you mean ?????
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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there is a lot of time and effort to put on a trade stand. you never know if you will sell anything or not. the attendance IS going to be down this year so doesnt give the traders as much insentive to go. maybe a good deal on a pitch with the RIGHT amount of passes would make it worth going. oh well another missed opertunity by the RSOC
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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thats the reason I dont do shows any longer,the price of the stand the praperation to get ready and then no one spends any longer
I used to love the shows lots of fun and banter with the punters and got rid of obscure parts the bufty boys needed,i used to take an entire car to break on the day,no one has ever done that
the shows used to be great I really miss them
the trade have to pay big to stand and the bedrrom bandits pay sod all really,total waste of time and effort,
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by space hoppers
there is a lot of time and effort to put on a trade stand. you never know if you will sell anything or not. the attendance IS going to be down this year so doesnt give the traders as much insentive to go. maybe a good deal on a pitch with the RIGHT amount of passes would make it worth going. oh well another missed opertunity by the RSOC
What a load of shit

If he cant recover them costs then he shouldnt be in business

ND is one of the top 3 shows in the year and grabs more sales for people like Pete than any other place

It is also not always about how much you take on the day , I would say it will do Pete more good to get his name and face back in the light than anything else

The only reason i dont trade there is baecause " As Tony mentioned " traders ( real ones ) are charged more than the auto jumble people , WHY , they are selling the same stuff as me
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
What a load of shit

If he cant recover them costs then he shouldnt be in business

ND is one of the top 3 shows in the year and grabs more sales for people like Pete than any other place

It is also not always about how much you take on the day , I would say it will do Pete more good to get his name and face back in the light than anything else

The only reason i dont trade there is baecause " As Tony mentioned " traders ( real ones ) are charged more than the auto jumble people , WHY , they are selling the same stuff as me

its NOT a load of shit mate. he wants to do the show but he needs lots of cars showing his products. with 2 car passes that isnt going to happen is it. the value compared to trax last week is very poor. is there going to be 20000 people at nat day i hope there will be for the sake of the club but i very much dout it. in your is of the buisness i can understand what your saying. i and he thinks it is a missed opertunity.

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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Maybe they HAVE to charge that amount to cover their costs?
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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i think pete said pitch was small so not sure how many cars he could get on but if there were more passes im sure he would do it.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by space hoppers
dont get ya there dave what do you mean ?????

So if you cant get your car on trade stand it stays at home?

How about a local group stand? If your a RSOC member?

Cheers
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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I'd have thought in light of how quiet its likely to be they could have stretched to allowing him a couple of extra car spaces, but like DanW says, they arent going to want to do him too many favours and risk pissing off the traders who have paid up and supported the event already.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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i wont be going, not after last years, 4 cars went missing. Think ill pass on showing my car... as i know donnington and they was taken from the in feald.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
So if you cant get your car on trade stand it stays at home?

How about a local group stand? If your a RSOC member?

Cheers
car will be there dave i have a back up plan

chip totally agree with you there mate
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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I agree that no-one's buying much car show anymore

My brother & I did autojumble at VW Festival (Harewood House)

Near enough a full weekends work for the £200 each we made, totally wore us out & we were pretty much giving stuff away

My brother's gone back to doing motorbike bits & Honda C50's...... no money in breaking VW's anymore
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by paulshears
I agree that no-one's buying much car show anymore

My brother & I did autojumble at VW Festival (Harewood House)

Near enough a full weekends work for the £200 each we made, totally wore us out & we were pretty much giving stuff away

My brother's gone back to doing motorbike bits & Honda C50's...... no money in breaking VW's anymore

i must agree it will be hard selling vw stuff to ford fans
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by space hoppers
car will be there dave i have a back up plan

chip totally agree with you there mate

Dont forget to bring your RSOC membership card with you, have heard they will be checking licence plates to confirm being a member
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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ok ta for that
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by space hoppers
is there going to be 20000 people at nat day....
Well the Trax attendance this year was 16.8K which was up 30% on last year, so I'd be very surprised if Nat Day (not taking anything away from the event)got near that.

Having said that, it's a show aimed at a very niche market, and so if you take just Ford products pretty much everyone there is your potential customer, whereas at a multi-marque show only one-in-ten will be interested.
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Originally Posted by RSTurboSI
i wont be going, not after last years, 4 cars went missing. Think ill pass on showing my car... as i know donnington and they was taken from the in feald.
Are you sure on that?
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Well the Trax attendance this year was 16.8K which was up 30% on last year, so I'd be very surprised if Nat Day (not taking anything away from the event)got near that.

Having said that, it's a show aimed at a very niche market, and so if you take just Ford products pretty much everyone there is your potential customer, whereas at a multi-marque show only one-in-ten will be interested.

thats good news about trax. spec r do do multi,marque products though. i think if he was given a few more passes he would do it its a shame as i love putting my car on his stand
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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as many would not have had a holiday abroad ect this year due to current situation it would not surprise me to see people taking more days out in uk and as a result (weather dependant) national day may well be superbly attended.
trade stand at any show is always gonna be a gamble so you pay your money and take your chance.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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no cars went missing from infield last year

you should not post incorrect facts
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by COS 22
no cars went missing from infield last year

you should not post incorrect facts
I was just gona ask what cars went missing? as i never heard anything about that?
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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James tell Pete to go.. Its in his best interest.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Well the weather forecast is very good for the whole weekend,so that will get more people to Nat Day

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html

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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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7x7m trade stand at TOTB was £125
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