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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Unhappy What ya think my sapp is worth please!(now with pics of engine)

Well think the time has now come to give up on the car,piston number 4 has melted(although still runs fine just noisey )also the standard brakes discs are fooked

here is some history and spec


She is 2wd 1989 original from ireland come over to the uk in 1991!she has had 3 plate changes the irish plate then to a private plate then over to its current plate(been on this plate since 1997 i think)4prev owners i have had her for nearly 8 years!just gone over 100k on the clock,I have Mots going back too 1994 i think will have to double check!thats all the history i have for the car!

She is not hpi clear rear end damage(previous owner lost her going around a roundabout!)Has o/s/r quarter,boot and rear panel i think!also he put a n/s/f wing on her at the same time!the accident was in 1996!during this time he done all the shell had her resprayed etc,rebuilt the engine(i have receipts for this)to standard spec,its on a 205 block,the head has been ported slightly(i noticed this when i done the headgasket last year)genuine coopers O ring headgasket supplied by tony @turbosystems I removed the whole engine and replaced every gasket as she had some small oil leaks,replaced cambelt/tensioner(genuine ford)water pump and threomastat(all gaskets water pump etc supplied from matt lewis)All this was done last year done around 2.5k since!

Also fitted grp A coil,magnecor 10mm ht leads,044 fuel pump and re-wired,Brand new Rad tec coolant rad,full set on samco boost hoses,full set of roose coolant hoses,alcon 6 paddle clutch heavy duty cover!
All these again fitted in the last 2 years again max miles 3.5k

Baileys turbo damper,T34.55 (2 half years old max 4k miles)4x4 inlet feed fuel pipe aeroquiped!,pace rs 500 intercooler,light blue injectors,ggr dump valve,piper cross induction kit,custom made exhaust(made by london stainless?)fully polly bushed,lowered spax on the back think also on the front,uprated coolant rad fans,quick shift,-34 actuator,L8,pectal baby board,pectal boost control(11 position boost settings)twin air injectors(black ones)live mapped by tony last month,standard brakes with braided bike pipes,Grp A diff mount!she is running around the 360mark

Bling parts

Stainless cambelt cover,stainless fuse box cover,stainless coolant tank,stainless map sensor bracket,stainless ign module bracket,crome lifting eyes prob other bits!All from a&s autos.
Black rocker cover,oil breather kit from racetek,goodrich braided brake pipes!prob more!

The car also has the 4x4 boot and petrol flap release.

Standard lattace alloys(diamond cut!)although there are starting to corrode!

interior is very very good condition leather(which i out in!)water temp and oil pressure gauges in the centre vents!boost,


There is prob more but i can not think lol!i have all receipts etc!So what ya think you would give?all opinions thoughts welcome!

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https://passionford.com/forum/pictur...my-cossie.html



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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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You know what the obvious course of action is surely....
Simple answer if you saw an add for this car and didn't know anything about it, being completely impartial, what would be the first figure that popped into your head.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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i aint breaking it aint got the room or heart to do that mate
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Sounds like the same scenario as me with my silver saph, i just didn't want to, so i fixed it in the end. Without sounding harsh you know it's just another saph with a blown engine, i'd say you'd be lucky to get 2-2.5k like that, just my opinion tho, and i'd say that's being generous. Your entitled to disagree obviously.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Rog has basically hit the nail on the head Doug

you know its worth more in bits, but its a ball ache to do and sell parts; an no doubt you'll be left with the shitty bits people dont want.

fancy a swap for my 323i coupe beemer?

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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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you interested in swaps or does it have to be a cash offer ?
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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No offence but its an accident damaged hpi recorded car with a blown engine, i was offered my old cat c saph back last year for 3k with a fresh built motor and no accident damage, the car had a fire under the bonnet just to give you some sort of idea.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
No offence but its an accident damaged hpi recorded car with a blown engine, i was offered my old cat c saph back last year for 3k with a fresh built motor and no accident damage, the car had a fire under the bonnet just to give you some sort of idea.

Aye and Mr MOT man says its rotten this year
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Imo better off getting the spanners out....... £2k if ya lucky with a fooked engine, chances are the turbos shagged as well all that molten piston running thru the turbo with the oil won't do it any favours....


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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BigErn
Aye and Mr MOT man says its rotten this year
Ye so i heard what you goign to do with it then?
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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a grand id say
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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dont sell it mate, everyone feels the same when you get knocked back its happens to all of us, park her up in the garage for a while until you ready to hit it with some money

i passed you on the way back from ford fair on sunday recognised the plate looked lovely on the standard diamond cuts, i was in a 4x4 freshly painted saph jus after the bp garage i think on the duel carriage way before m1
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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How much do you want for it?
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Really interested in buying mate have sent a pm please call or email cheers
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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hi will get through the pm's and reply to them all asap!cheers for the opinions so far,all opinions and thoughts very welcome!

Just because she aint hpi clear dont mean she aint a good honest straight example
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bad boy rs
dont sell it mate, everyone feels the same when you get knocked back its happens to all of us, park her up in the garage for a while until you ready to hit it with some money

i passed you on the way back from ford fair on sunday recognised the plate looked lovely on the standard diamond cuts, i was in a 4x4 freshly painted saph jus after the bp garage i think on the duel carriage way before m1

Ah yes i remember you cracking looking motor! as i recall you gave me a nice little piiitttissshhhh right next to my window!i thought bastard i can not do that as i was nursing her home lol! that amount of feckers doing that next to me on the way home lol!cheers for the thoughts and comments mate
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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I would deffo keep it mate,worth nowt at the mo but if you get the motor sorted and keep it nice its value will climb eventually.Saw it at national day last year and its a very nice looking car mate
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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go look at the pics again yourself, and get some inspiration to get it fixed and enjoy it for yourself!


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Looks like a decent car, would be ideal if someone had an engine sitting ready to go in!
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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let me know what money your after for it mate
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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all pm's replied!phil winmill looking for as much as i could get for her so make a offer mate
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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Dont do it i seen it at ford fair and it looked mint.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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pics added on 1st post
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Fix it and come back bigger and better. See it down the North London Passionford meet looks nice car.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Needs a price, I know its a whats it worth thread but still, ill start lol 2K.

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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
a grand id say

mini ,

i started already and am a fair bit lower than you.....
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i know this is a what do you think its worth thread but you got no chance of getting it for a grand or below lol!
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
mini ,

i started already and am a fair bit lower than you.....

Bollox missed that lol

So 2 Grands not enough - you know what ya want for it as you know what you wont take for it!

I fuckin hate these threads pmsl
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all the offers so far have been around the 2.5k mark mate,it will not be going anywhere for a couple of weeks!just looking at what interest and what sort of figures i am looking at mate
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well usually decent cossies with no engine go for £1500-2K for a mint shell

So its basically the same, so i'd say the same sort of cash seeing as it's not HPI clear.

Would you sell it for that?
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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think you should look at the car before saying it only worth £1500/2000
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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So if I removed the engine, you'd pay more than 2K for it?

Show me a sapph thats got a fucked engine, and had a hit in the past that's worth more!

I'm not trying to put the guys car down at all, he asked what we think it's worth, show me a sapph that's had a hit, with a fucked engine that's worth more?

Personally I think it looks a nice car, but that doesnt make it worth more IMO.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Agreeded, it looks a nice project for some one. Wish i had that sort of money, i'd buy it. Good luck with whatever you decide
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I will buy the braided fuel line and fuel rail + your diff mount

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Have we come to a price on this yet?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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When people say good Cossies have gone for £3k, these are distress sales. I know someone who sold his at Xmas a couple of years back for £3k, the silly bastard, he had spent £5k on the engine not long before real tears, as they say. These things happen I'm afraid.

And as has been said, a trimmed shell with no engine or box is £1.5k so I'd price this car around £2k for sure.
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Well i have PM'd

Im interested I just need to narrow him down on a price.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboShed
When people say good Cossies have gone for £3k, these are distress sales. I know someone who sold his at Xmas a couple of years back for £3k, the silly bastard, he had spent £5k on the engine not long before real tears, as they say. These things happen I'm afraid.

And as has been said, a trimmed shell with no engine or box is £1.5k so I'd price this car around £2k for sure.
Im not disagreeing with youre valuation as it seems pretty fair but i dont see trimmed saff shells going for £1500. That seems very optomistic.
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this is a couple of months old so maybe its sold/Broken anyway.
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