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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Someone i know offered me a duel and is litterally daring me to challenge him in his 550bhp escort cossie.i have not been in it but a few mates have told me it is super quick. i am more than sure it would do me at any lights so was thinking that once both cars were rolling would my car be quicker upto say 150mph or would the cossie be?
its a hard one and i dont really want to take on the challenge if its a one sided event!
i have driven a 350bhp cossie and was not 1 bit impressed with that so i was wondering if a 550bhp would be just too much for a 300bhp rst?
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Whats the spec of the 300bhp RST
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Would say the cos would murder you mate
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hard to say, depending on grip the cossie would probably be hitting a ton in about 8 seconds! ive been in a 275bhp rs16i that has been known to sit on the bumpers of a murcialago tho so who knows. only one way to find out i suppose and thats to try!
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hard to say, depending on grip the cossie would probably be hitting a ton in about 8 seconds! ive been in a 275bhp rs16i that has been known to sit on the bumpers of a murcialago tho so who knows. only one way to find out i suppose and thats to try!
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was that mine???
Yes mate
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the 16i belonged to ajc on this forum believe its been sold bought back stripped and sold again!!
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the 16i belonged to ajc on this forum believe its been sold bought back stripped and sold again!!
I bought it from ajc originally, it was very very quick.
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mk3stevie the thing was more than quick it was a fucking animal! it was like lag lag lag lag lag oh my fookin gooooooooood!
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No chance, the 550bhp escos will absolutely fuck all over you


Two cars I have recently driven:

Doug Stirlings Escort Cosworth - 530bhp
Rob Twitchells stripped Astra mk2 - 400bhp

0-60 - Escos by a mile
60-120 - Not a lot in it
120 + Escos by a bit


Thats a 400bhp astra mk2, which is probably lighter than your car and is a 100bhp more, and the escos still beats that comfortably in most circumstances, yours wouldnt stand a chance anywhere at all, you'd get beaten by a bit in the midrange where its all about power to weight (ie 60-120) and you would get beaten by a lot in the first couple of gears where its about grip, and would get beaten by a lot in 5th where its all about power overcoming aerodynamics.

So race him on a dual carriageway from a rolling start through 3rd and 4th, ie from at about 60mph upto about 120 and at least you will only get beaten by a bit not totally slaughtered and humiliated like you will if its from a standing start or over a big distance.

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Have to agree with chip mate, as much as i love rst's you don't really stand any chance if the cossie IS 550bhp! A 300bhp rst is a bloody fast car don't get me wrong but a 550bhp cossie is a very very quick car in reality, as said there are certain circumstances where you won't get embarrassed at all but the sort of race you'll prolly have down a duel carriageway or somethin there will be only one outcome sadly....
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Have a go anyway, no point wondering about these things when you could be out there actually doing it! Big deal if you loose, just a bit of fun innit?

You never know, the Cos may be down on power/have pub spec figures/rubbish driver/blow up
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Have a go anyway, no point wondering about these things when you could be out there actually doing it! Big deal if you loose, just a bit of fun innit?
Agreed, I like racing cause even if I lose, then at least ive got to experience seeing the performance of soemthing quicker than my own car at close quarters



You never know, the Cos may be down on power/have pub spec figures/rubbish driver/blow up
and you think that cant apply to the RST too?
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standing start,hopefully he blows up his box and eats your dust.
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Cossie all the way...
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0-60 = Cossie
60-120 = RST
120+ = Cossie

Thats how mine faired against a 500bhp Escort Cossie anyway
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0-60 = Cossie
60-120 = RST
120+ = Cossie

Thats how mine faired against a 500bhp Escort Cossie anyway
Well according to your sig your RST does 60-100 in 5.8 seconds.

That isnt good enough to beat a 550bhp escos, which will do it in sub 5, so the person you raced must have missed a gear or something.
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Guys lets get something clear i am not doing no 0-60 against any 4wd car in my rst as it not going to happen!
i have seen cossies RR graph and one thing i noticed that the power is been made at 4500rpm +, below this the car isn't making anything!
my car is producing most of its power between 3500rpm - 6500rpm + i run anti-lag which gets the turbo starting earlier.
i am only talking rolling starts!
all this 0-60 business is pure traffic light grand prix and i would not be inclinded to try that.
also to add to the factors are that it has a beefier diff which weighs so much more than the cossie one, bigger wheels 18's, a complete ice setup, plus so many extra add-ons its unreal!
I have already been in the car when it was 350bhp and it was whatless to say the least!

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Originally Posted by morph
Guys lets get something clear i am not doing no 0-60 against any 4wd car in my rst as it not going to happen!
i have seen cossies RR graph and one thing i noticed that the power is been made at 4500rpm +, below this the car isn't making anything!
my car is producing most of its power between 3500rpm - 6500rpm + i run anti-lag which gets the turbo starting earlier.
i am only talking rolling starts!
all this 0-60 business is pure traffic light grand prix and i would not be inclinded to try that.
also to add to the factors are that it has a beefier diff which weighs so much more than the cossie one, bigger wheels 18's, a complete ice setup, plus so many extra add-ons its unreal!
I have already been in the car when it was 350bhp and it was whatless to say the least!
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We did this at MAD along time ago. In low boost (330bhp) a 260bhp RST was able to stay with but not catch the 330 Cossie, when i hit the high Boost switch (504bhp) the RST was left totally for dead. Look at the facts a 550bhp can reach 186mph at Brunters (MADAde) in a straight drag an RST with way over 300bhp cant reach 170mph in that distance, you seem to have no idea of the performance difference with an extra 200bhp.

You quote your RST as 60-100 in 5.8. At totb eliminators years back Performance Ford recorded 60-100 in 3.6 for mine with 500bhp & without 4x4.
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Originally Posted by morph
Guys lets get something clear i am not doing no 0-60 against any 4wd car in my rst as it not going to happen!
i have seen cossies RR graph and one thing i noticed that the power is been made at 4500rpm +, below this the car isn't making anything!
Unless he is a total cock, he wont be below 4500rpm at any point during your race.

also to add to the factors are that it has a beefier diff which weighs so much more than the cossie one, bigger wheels 18's, a complete ice setup, plus so many extra add-ons its unreal!
I have already been in the car when it was 350bhp and it was whatless to say the least!
350bhp escos = pretty tame
550bhp escos = very quick car

The difference is night and day, as much as between a 180bhp run of the mill stage 1 chipped RST and a 300bhp one!
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I think i might leave it! don't really want to race something that is going to be a different league to mine! a bit dissapointed though! thanks for all the comments.
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Originally Posted by morph
I think i might leave it! don't really want to race something that is going to be a different league to mine! a bit dissapointed though! thanks for all the comments.
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Do it and film it then we will all know whether a 300 RST will cope with a 550 Cos.
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Originally Posted by morph
I'm not gay... i would've raced the escos by now, win or lose it'd be fun imo! Are you one of the people who cant face (or dont like admitting to) a car thats faster than yours?
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i think the rs turbo will do him



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Just give him a blast up the bypas and find out lol, i'd hardly be 'worried' about racing him, it's not for 'slips' is it lol?!
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Mines running best part of 300bhp and as much as the cars a great laugh and certainly no sloutch there is no way i would take on a 550 cossie..

I gone against for highpowered evos but not 500 +

BUT saying that i would like to know what the difference is between them
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just have a go, would good to see how you get on against one
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Originally Posted by Red16
I'm not gay... i would've raced the escos by now, win or lose it'd be fun imo! Are you one of the people who cant face (or dont like admitting to) a car thats faster than yours?
No, i wanna those guys that doesn't want to lose his car to a race!
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Originally Posted by rstdave
Just give him a blast up the bypas and find out lol, i'd hardly be 'worried' about racing him, it's not for 'slips' is it lol?!
You got it!
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Originally Posted by morph
No, i wanna those guys that doesn't want to lose his car to a race!
PINKS! OR GREENS IN OUR CASE!
Your not doing it for pinks/greens though are you... its just for a bit of fun... or would be if you would go and do it!
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Originally Posted by morph
No, i wanna those guys that doesn't want to lose his car to a race!
PINKS! OR GREENS IN OUR CASE!
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What was the last car you won in a drag race then mate if you normally race for the V5, or have you just been watching "grease the musical" too much?
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or have you just been watching "grease the musical" too much?
can we keep this on track and not dis a great singing and dancing extravagansa
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have ago be something good to put on youtube
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You got it!
I do hope you're joking lol.....it ain't the fast and the furious mate pmsl!
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What was the last car you won in a drag race then mate if you normally race for the V5, or have you just been watching "grease the musical" too much?
never done a drag race nor tend to!
Grease the musical? what the F's that?
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