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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Due to a part throttle flat spot I have suspected that my throttle position sensor was bad. I purchased a known good used one (pf01) to replace it with. I've just finished probing the wires to check to voltages with an analog meter. Here is what I found. It seems that both sensors produce the exact same results. At idle position the voltage is being read at approx. 2.5-2.75 volts. As soon as the throttle is cracked open a bit the voltage jumps up to about 4.25-4.5 volts and drops smoothly as the throttle is opened until it hits 0.5 volts. Is this normal? I used the analog meter to make sure that there were no dead spots in the sensor.

I am aware of the switch built in to the sensor that tells the computer that the throttle is closed. Is this why at idle the voltage is 2.5-2.75 and then jumps to the higher value stated above?

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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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There is NO switch in the 2wd throttle pots.
They should read around 4.5 at idle dropping to around 0.5 at fully open.
At no time should it read 2.5-2.75 at idle.
This points to them being shagged, it is normally just around or above idle that suffers, I have some piccies of the tps cut open if you want, you will be able to see what's what, and the lack of switch.
A bodge that has sometimes been used on other tps's is to use a carbon stick to recarbon the track only last very little time I'm afraid.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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If I use a digital meter I get 4.75 at idle. When I open the throttle a little it goes from 4.75 to the 4.3x range without making any readings between those numbers. I can't get either sensor to show an 4.4x,4.5x or 4.6x number on the volt meter. Can I assume that their both burnt in the same place???
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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2wd TPS should read 5 volt (or very close to 5 volt) with throttle closed.
When it is opened just a little bit it should jump to 4.5 to 4.7 volts and then slowly decrease when the throttle is opened further.
As said: at no time should it give around 2.5 volt when the throttle is closed.
Also measure the 5 volt supply. Is it always 5 volt (or very close to 5 volt)?
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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They will never be 5 volt unless your metre is out, 5 volt is the refference feed, it is not closed even when you think it is, as it has a internal stop, that the mechanism rests on, this is set so that it always detects some throttle angle.
They do usually go a bit iffy just around or above idle as this part is the most used, mine did, and it caused a mystery hesistation, till we put the scope on it, then changed it to a universal one, been perfect since.
It is unlikely that you will get all the readings as it is so sensitive, I haev had one on the bench testing for duff patches, and although this one worked perfect it was nigh on impossible to get certain range readings.
A 4wd one will fit, with reversing the outer wires, it won't be perfect though, but certainly better than a duff one.
Any that has the same resistance/range as std will fit, as it has a std "D" shape shaft, my one is from a rover I think, I just grabbed it as it was already there, but I run a different ecu, so it can cope with this, you will need one correct.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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A 4wd one will fit, with reversing the outer wires, it won't be perfect though, but certainly better than a duff one.
Are you sure? That would need a change in the ecu.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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I think I got it wrong about swapping the outer two wires, though you can defo use the 4wd one, like I said won't be perfect as idle strategy is different.
Best ask stu(MSD) as he is sure to know.
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I'me sure the 2wd has 5 volt (or very close to 5V) on the TPS when idling.
See: http://www.siipicossu.com/manuaaleja...sis%20Info.pdf
and: http://www.siipicossu.com/manuaaleja...Sierra%20D.pdf
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Thankyou Oldford for those PDF Files, they have explained to me how to test my electric. I will have a go tomorrow and see if I can work out why my ISCV isnt working
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