higher torque starter motor????????
Nov 26, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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higher torque starter motor????????
brought a escort s2 on sunday. MINT. has been bored out to a 1.9. stuggles to bludy start, so annoying. when running the engine is sweet as a nut.
battery went flat and when RAC man came and jumpstarted it, it still took longer to start. drove it for atleast 45mins. left it for a few hours and tried it agen. SAME THING, struggled to start
think it might need a high torque starter motor.
eny suggestions or what starter motor i could use.
????????????????????
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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You 100% sure the alternator and battery are working fine?? and that theres no electrical problems taking your juice???
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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I very much doubt you need a starter motor with more torque, I would have thought compression ratio would determine torque required, not engine size.
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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You 100% sure the alternator and battery are working fine?? and that theres no electrical problems taking your juice???
not 100%, gna fully charge it 2nite.
thats otha thing i was thinking of but its got descent battery. it does have an alarm and sounds. but with a good battery then that shouldnt drain it really.
cnt fink of enything else electrical problem?????
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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I very much doubt you need a starter motor with more torque, I would have thought compression ratio would determine torque required, not engine size.
well i know a family who builds engines.
they bore out a 2.0l pinto engine i think to a 2.2-2.3l and they need higher torque starter motor to fire it up.
so????
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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use your multimeter to check it out.
Also use it to test the alternator charging as well.
How old is the starter?? could just be getting old/cooked too much etc
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Could just be an old/overheated motor. Happens on alot of S2's
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use your multimeter to check it out.
Also use it to test the alternator charging as well.
How old is the starter?? could just be getting old/cooked too much etc
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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whooooaaaaaa my double post was split!!!!
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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use your multimeter to check it out.
Also use it to test the alternator charging as well.
How old is the starter?? could just be getting old/cooked too much etc
my multimeter????????
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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i would check all the connections and clean them up and just make sure everything is getting ample current blah blah.
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Could just be an old/overheated motor. Happens on alot of S2's
i dout it lol. i take a pic of it and show if u want.
engine has onli done 3000 miles.
when its started up, it sounds fucking sweet as
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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you have got one then??
They are a very useful tool to help diagnose electrical issues on cars.
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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you have got one then??
They are a very useful tool to help diagnose electrical issues on cars.
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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you have got one then??
They are a very useful tool to help diagnose electrical issues on cars.
no lol, but i know sum1 with one so i will get them to check out
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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You can cook starter motors quite easily even if new. Done that to a crappy cheap starter fitted to my rs1800 within a few months.
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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could be the timing needs adjusting. aargrgrgrrrr. apart from that, the engine is soooo nice and sounds the nuts when started lol
im taking it to torque of the devil on 19th dec for propa tune so hopefully they can have an idea
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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youve described a fucked battery, what makes you think there's nothing wrong with the battery?
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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oh and describe "struggles"...
turns over slowly? (what i was talking about with the battery)
turns over fine but wont fire? (non-starter related fault)
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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What makes you think its the timing causing your issues???
Nov 26, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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well im not 100% mate, just thinking of the worst tbh.
but even when sum put a jump pack on it, it sparked fine etc but took like 5 seconds to actually start.
Nov 26, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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What makes you think its the timing causing your issues???
just wot sum1 sed?
Nov 26, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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well i know a family who builds engines.
they bore out a 2.0l pinto engine i think to a 2.2-2.3l and they need higher torque starter motor to fire it up.
so????
Yep and the Pinto proberly runs 12-13:1 compression ratio where as your RS will be around 9:1, or lower. Dont waste your money on a high touque starter.
Nov 26, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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i would stick a new battery in it.
Nov 26, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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i would stick a new battery in it.
prob gna do that mate. just a descent one from halfords or sumin????
Nov 26, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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any motor factors should be able to sort you out.
Nov 26, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Just cause the starter looks good from the outside doesn't tell you anything about the internals...
Nov 26, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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please answer my question as it's actually rather relevant
Nov 27, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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The engine may still be tight ?, I have seen this a lot, on modded cars, where starting is ok till an engine change then extra urge needed for new engine is the last straw, and slowly gives up, had it on my dads xr4i, when we changed 3.5 for 4l, as 4l was new and tight same thing.
I would first though clean up all connections, then check charge rate, do discharge test on battery, it may just need new brushes or a clean out of the starter, but as said these are famous for cooking starters.
If it was ignition it would tend to kick back when turning on starter, and pink as well once started, but only a strobe light away from fixing, if that, which I don't think it is.
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Nov 27, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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one of the cells is low.
need a new battery.
looking for over 560A but needs to be square terminal.
halfords didnt have it, gna go euro parts 2moro
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