VirginMedia V+ box
Ok so i've forked out the 99 Quid installation fee for V+ to go with my bush 40inch HD Lcd, an touch wood so far its pretty good only thing is the manual for it is, well put very bluntely C R A P so can someone out-there please tell me what i can connect it to externally ie> Can an how do i connect it to a pc for saving recorded stuff from it rather than delete it when full up, or if not a pc how about an external USB Hard-drive using the USB sockets on the rear and come to think of it can someone tell me what all the connections on the back are for,, not the audio connectors like R,W,Y excetera but the other ones. OK hoping to get some answers,,,,,,,,,,,,GEORGE... 
Ok so i've forked out the 99 Quid installation fee for V+ to go with my bush 40inch HD Lcd, an touch wood so far its pretty good only thing is the manual for it is, well put very bluntely C R A P so can someone out-there please tell me what i can connect it to externally ie> Can an how do i connect it to a pc for saving recorded stuff from it rather than delete it when full up, or if not a pc how about an external USB Hard-drive using the USB sockets on the rear and come to think of it can someone tell me what all the connections on the back are for,, not the audio connectors like R,W,Y excetera but the other ones. OK hoping to get some answers,,,,,,,,,,,,GEORGE... 
RWY outputs are for HD television, if you dont want HD running from the HDMI port, they are called "Component Inputs"
as for recording onto PC, there is software out there to load onto your PC, and all you do is connect a scart lead to a PC-AV connector, press play on your V+ box and record on your PC software ! easy as
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RWY outputs are for HD television, if you dont want HD running from the HDMI port, they are called "Component Inputs"
as for recording onto PC, there is software out there to load onto your PC, and all you do is connect a scart lead to a PC-AV connector, press play on your V+ box and record on your PC software ! easy as
as for recording onto PC, there is software out there to load onto your PC, and all you do is connect a scart lead to a PC-AV connector, press play on your V+ box and record on your PC software ! easy as
HDMI will transport HD signals in digital form, along with audio if you select this option to the TV/AV receiver, or you can use the component OUTPUTS from the V+ box, which are red, green and blue RCA's. These only do video (standard def and HD) but no audio (so separate audio cable is needed from the V+ box to your TV/AV receiver (either the optical TOSlink or stereo RCA's)
Erm, no they're not! Red, white and yellow RCA's are composite video (yellow) and stereo audio (red + white) and is the shittest quality connection (next to RF) you can get!
HDMI will transport HD signals in digital form, along with audio if you select this option to the TV/AV receiver, or you can use the component OUTPUTS from the V+ box, which are red, green and blue RCA's. These only do video (standard def and HD) but no audio (so separate audio cable is needed from the V+ box to your TV/AV receiver (either the optical TOSlink or stereo RCA's)
HDMI will transport HD signals in digital form, along with audio if you select this option to the TV/AV receiver, or you can use the component OUTPUTS from the V+ box, which are red, green and blue RCA's. These only do video (standard def and HD) but no audio (so separate audio cable is needed from the V+ box to your TV/AV receiver (either the optical TOSlink or stereo RCA's)
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So? Doesn't help the OP tho when he reads something and thinks it is what he is told, only to find out later it isn't is it? Or should I not correct you, and let the OP think his "HD" picture is shit cos he connected using composite cables?
Secondly, the second paragraph was for the OP's benefit, not yours, tho you will probably benefit from it anyway...
Thirdly;

Secondly, the second paragraph was for the OP's benefit, not yours, tho you will probably benefit from it anyway...
Thirdly;

So? Doesn't help the OP tho when he reads something and thinks it is what he is told, only to find out later it isn't is it? Or should I not correct you, and let the OP think his "HD" picture is shit cos he connected using composite cables?
Secondly, the second paragraph was for the OP's benefit, not yours, tho you will probably benefit from it anyway...
Thirdly;


Secondly, the second paragraph was for the OP's benefit, not yours, tho you will probably benefit from it anyway...
Thirdly;



as if you were sad enough to make that picture up, i realised my mistake after i had posted first time. obviously need to get a life, you can tell you dont get out much with 16,471 posts to your name
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Thrush
You say the RGB connections do std def and hi def
Ive always known RGB connections to be good.
BUT are they of equal quality to HDMI linking ?
My mate had one of them V+ Virgin box thingys, and best we could see was when a program was transmitted in HD you had to go into the menu and change to the HDMI setting but if it wernt transmitting in HD you didnt get a picture, so had to go back into the menu and take it off the HDMI setting, but if (and if im right in saying the last bit lol) the RGB outs can do both then it would be better to connect via them and should get the best available picture every time
If you could explain the above in something close to English so I can understand lol
would be great 
Cheers
Steve
You say the RGB connections do std def and hi def
Ive always known RGB connections to be good.
BUT are they of equal quality to HDMI linking ?
My mate had one of them V+ Virgin box thingys, and best we could see was when a program was transmitted in HD you had to go into the menu and change to the HDMI setting but if it wernt transmitting in HD you didnt get a picture, so had to go back into the menu and take it off the HDMI setting, but if (and if im right in saying the last bit lol) the RGB outs can do both then it would be better to connect via them and should get the best available picture every time
If you could explain the above in something close to English so I can understand lol
Cheers
Steve
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Red Green and Blue RCA's are commonly mis-labled RGB - this is incorrect. RGB is a connection used by predominantly within a scart connection, and differs in specification than Red Green and Blue phono connections, which is actually YUV, also known as two varients - YPrPb and YCrCb - the former being analogue and the latter being digital. RGB over scart differs from YUV in that it has separate pins for red, blue and green, aswell as a 4th pin for sync, whereas YUV has dedicated red and blue, and sync is part of the green connection (known as "sync on green") Chromience and Luminance are lumped into the other two connections, whereas RGB over scart has dedicated pins for this. To demonstrate how shit composite (yellow video RCA) is, all of the above (red, blue, green, sync, chromience and luminance are all done using one cable core and one "pin" connection. Poor indeed.......
Scart, in which ever form (beit RGB, S-Video or Composite) cannot carry anything over it's maximum of 576i standard def picture. YUV has the bandwidth to be able to carry both 576i SD aswell as up to 1080p HD, along with other varients along the way such as 480p (SD) 576p (SD) 720p (HD) and 1080i (HD)
The ability to transmit HD over component (YUV) is down to the permissions of the hardware - the TV has to be able to accept HD over YUV and the source unit has to be able to output HD over YUV. Most of the time this is in the box settings with a simple on/off toggle.
As to which is better, HDMI or YUV, in many cases it is down to personal preference. In many cases, usually with cheaper components, HDMI is seen to be sharper, and clearer, but at the same time not as warm or vibrant. YUV can come off slightly "softer" (also reported as "not as harsh") but often with warmer and more vibrant colours/deeper colours. HDMI is however, a fully digital transmission (as in binary - 1's and 0's) and also carries the ability to transmit upto 8 channels of uncompressed (HD) audio along the same cable as it's 1080p (HD) video.
Scart, in which ever form (beit RGB, S-Video or Composite) cannot carry anything over it's maximum of 576i standard def picture. YUV has the bandwidth to be able to carry both 576i SD aswell as up to 1080p HD, along with other varients along the way such as 480p (SD) 576p (SD) 720p (HD) and 1080i (HD)
The ability to transmit HD over component (YUV) is down to the permissions of the hardware - the TV has to be able to accept HD over YUV and the source unit has to be able to output HD over YUV. Most of the time this is in the box settings with a simple on/off toggle.
As to which is better, HDMI or YUV, in many cases it is down to personal preference. In many cases, usually with cheaper components, HDMI is seen to be sharper, and clearer, but at the same time not as warm or vibrant. YUV can come off slightly "softer" (also reported as "not as harsh") but often with warmer and more vibrant colours/deeper colours. HDMI is however, a fully digital transmission (as in binary - 1's and 0's) and also carries the ability to transmit upto 8 channels of uncompressed (HD) audio along the same cable as it's 1080p (HD) video.
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